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With the help of Sinema and Manchin the GOP will take the House during the next mideterms.

It would not surprise me to see Manchin switch parties ala Liebermann.

he says he will vote against legislation that he cosponsored in 2019 because GOP is against it

he was aghast that the gop did not vote with 10 of them in favor of the commission. even though 6 did in the senate, apparently that's not enough bipartisanship. why not make it 100%? what's the bloody point

the senate, as an institution, is fundamentally broken. the founders never thought one state would have literally 70x the population of another state. they also built a senate as being subservant to the state legislatures not the people directly. consequently, the senate currently has zero suffrage from the states so the part of article V that states that all states need to agree to changes in the senate is moot unless it involves given the senate back to control of the states. i'm saying it desperately needs changes. my preferred approach is fibonacci * 1 million, so 0-1 million=1 senator, 1-2=2, 2-3=3, 3-5=4, 5-8=5 etc and would have a senate of 208. Still smaller body, still favors small states, but also improves the voice of larger states. also the filibuster needs to go of course. or perhaps at least the idea that you can just not vote and it counts as a NAY. the commission failed with 60% majority voting for it, but because so many just didn't vote (including 2 dems) it failed. plus the idea that things are just not brought to the floor is ridiculous. if ya'll aren't there, if you go home because you're a kitty, and the majority passes it while they have a quorum of half its members, some of which voted against it but not half of the members present, well, that's on you. you want to be a senator? fine, but do your job.

I feel like we're in a worse position now than before the election. Political opportunists in the GOP now tow the line that the election was stolen, Trump spouts his BS from wherever he can find an audience, and the GOP does nothing to counter it. I just feel this rising animosity inside the country and there are no leaders to be seen.

People are short on patience, more aggressive, and increasingly violent. Just feels hopeless. Meacham just said it feels most like what he imagines the 1850's felt like prior to the civil war.

Maybe we need that coup attempt in August? Just sad.

Ya, Americans don't know how to solve any differences outside of large scale civil wars. The nation has been in a state of insurgency for decades now, since the Civil Rights Era, and it is coming to a head. I expect open conflict and de facto state secession within two decades. The Republican Party is treasonous and it's leaders deserve to be charged and executed by hanging, by the appropriate legal body.

Here we go:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... t-focus-to

Biden ended it with Caputo. Trying again with other bipartisan group - if there's nothing by the end of this week then it'll be on Manchin and Sinema.

Which is what will happen.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/sp ... a-threats/

Interesting look at what the midterms and 2024 have in store for us. Basically, more violence.

Either Manchin has seen the light or...this was his plan all along? Plus Schumer now has the GOP voting against the election reform bill. Interesting times.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ar-AALklyL

manchin might have slyly just needed some cover. he presented a slimmed down version with nothing partisan at all and he got no support. so yeah, i think it was his plan all along

the senate is already crafted so that something around 6% of the US population can theoretically control the filibuster. even if they went with the constitutional option and got rid of the filibuster it's still only 8-9% of the population that could, theoretically, control the senate (half of the population of the smallest half of the states). It already requires absurd amounts of bipartisanship without the filibuster to get stuff done

Either way I don't see Manchin holding his seat next election. Hyperpartisanship is going to get worse. He might as well go down now.