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Re: Tax Reform

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Re: Tax Reform

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Re: Tax Reform

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Re: Tax Reform

Postby Kane » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:32 pm

That’s because I fundamentally disagree with your premise. I’m not a member of the GOP and I’m not a hardcore conservative. There are places where government should step in. Where it can step in. Where it has stepped in.

There are areas of overreach but there are definitively areas of under reach as well. As with any nuanced position any policy can be implemented horribly but have the right idea.

I understand wanting less government because the free market can do it better - I just don’t adhere to that categorically and for all situations.

“Government has gotten too big” isn’t an argument.

And the idea that this bill is great or achieves something grand falls flat on its face. Reforming the tax code typically doesn’t add to the debt/deficit. If this is really reform meant to simplify the code and make it so that you can file your taxes on a postcard then why is it 500 pages long?
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Re: Tax Reform

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Re: Tax Reform

Postby Kane » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:45 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes. ... y,amp.html

Hey, here’s Marco Rubio blatantly admitting what I just said. Fascinating.
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Re: Tax Reform

Postby phosphide » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:43 pm

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Re: Tax Reform

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Re: Tax Reform

Postby phosphide » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:03 pm

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Re: Tax Reform

Postby Spider » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:39 am

So, to sum up...you two are caged by ideology.

f**k. Ideology.

Stop trying to force the world into your idealistic preconceptions of could, would, should...and apply just a little pragmatism. It doens't matter where the deficit came from...it's a deficit. It's outstanding debt that will have to be continuously serviced for the entirety of the foreseeable future, which will of course drive further debt to cover that expense. It's a snowball rolling down a hill. A positive feedback loop. Whatever it takes to illustrate this for you.

Jesus, you guys. They are literally screwing you right now. You are actually going to wind up paying more later on so cheetah wallpaper guy doesn't have to! And they have you so well trained and caged into this ideological thought void that you are defending them for it! It's hilarious.

You are volunteering to pay more taxes while others pay less in this wide-eyed faith that "we have to spend less"....while supporting an endless cycle that guarantees we will have to continue to keep spending more on the debt that made your tax increase possible!

It's f**k amazing. And all over the country, MAGA hat clowns are going "Damn straight" and getting ready to voluntarily subsidize some rich coastal elite's tax break. :))

The only other thing like this I've seen is when I hold a treat up in the air and my dog freezes, stares, and salivates.
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