The NDAA's Indefinite Detention Clause Isn't Dead Yet

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[Boris Johnson]

If the appeal fails will you admit the Illuminati are not all powerful?

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[Boris Johnson]

Who's the leader of the Illuminati?

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[Boris Johnson]

[Sandman]

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Any person with a shred of intregrity recognizes that this law is nothing more than a way to continue the trend of usurping power from the people and concentrating it in the federal government. It really isn't a good law to debate, because I've never seen anyone defend it. That is my two cents on your topic.

What really pisses me off about people who support this Illumnati bull**** is that you are basically helping the actual conspiracists out there. UFOs, secret societies, millenium-long conspiracies, shadowy, always-unnamed figures controlling governments, dictating every minute detail of our lives - not even a bit of it is true. There are conspiracies, there are people who use money and wealth to influence politics, but you know what? They don't meet up and plan the next thousand years out. They don't charter secret organizations and hold Evil Conspiracy Meet'N'Greets. That is not the nature of true conspiracies. True conspiracies aren't neat and organized, they aren't planned from above; they are nothing more than the sum of many peoples actions, and those actions are determined by motivations that almost always vary.

Imagine two people, on the opposite sides of the world from one another. They are both fascinated by stars and planets, so they spend all night watching those things, studying their movements, and recording their observations. After doing this for fifty years, they come up with a remarkably similar set of conclusions: the Sun rises in the East, and sets in the West. Polar orbits. How objects tend to move in eclipses, not circles. As a result of their observations, they would very likely take similar actions: they would both encourage people to create better telescopes, for instance. Or they would realize that if they could just get something up into orbit, it would stay there, forever.

Your average, completely wrong-headed conspiracy theorists would deduce that they were in bed together, that they had planned this out with the help of alien hybrids from Planet Xulu, and that they were, in fact, controlling the skies. But that isn't the case. Without every actually communicating, these two people would be helping one another, propping the other up, and for no other reason than that they shared interests.

You don't talk about how a teachers union is a "conspiracy to help all teachers make more money." You don't talk about how a political party is "a conspiracy to get your group of friends into power." The reason why is because there is obviously a difference between pursuing common interests and "conspiring." And you, it seems, can no longer tell that difference.

[Sandman]

Conspiracy theorists are, IMO, people who have glimpsed the uncontrolled chaos that is life in the universe, and it scared the living shit out of them. So they imagine an all-powerful group of people controlling every single event that happens on earth, from economic downturns to wars to tsunamis to terrorist attacks, because at the end of the day a malevolent God is more comforting to them than the prospect of no God at all. Plus, it gives them some identity, some meaning in life, to be pretending to fight this global battle of good VS evil with them as the central Paul Revere character. They are special, they are the "awakened ones" and the rest of humanity are just "sheep".

But I repeat, if they really bought into any of their own horseshit, they wouldn't be on a computer trying to convince weirdos on a message board, forwarding youtube videos in between smoke breaks at their fast food jobs. They'd be flying planes into IRS buildings or something.

[kapitokrug]