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Welcome to the 115th Congress. We are in BIG trouble!

Postby Vinnie_Big_Dog » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:26 am

Welcome to the 115th Congress. Day 1 and their first deplorable act!! We are off to a bad start. So much for integrity and transparency in government. You have to wonder what these people are afraid of. :ymdevil:

House Republicans To Gut Ethics Watchdog http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hou ... ijg7mpwrk9

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WASHINGTON ― As one of their first actions in the new Congress, House Republicans are planning to significantly change the Office of Congressional Ethics, removing the entity’s independence, barring it from investigating anonymous complaints and even changing the group’s name.

Specifically, the amendment would place the OCE under the “oversight” of the lenient Ethics Committee and rename it the Office of Congressional Complaint Review. The new group would no longer be able to release information to the public, employ anyone “for a position involving communications with the public,” or directly contact law enforcement without approval. It would also be prohibited from investigating anonymous complaints.



Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the change would “functionally destroy” the office.

“Republicans claim they want to ‘drain the swamp,’ but the night before the new Congress gets sworn in, the House GOP has eliminated the only independent ethics oversight of their actions,” Pelosi said. “Evidently, ethics are the first casualty of the new Republican Congress.”



The vote took place in secret, by anonymous ballot and behind closed doors, so it’s not possible to know which representatives approved of the measure. But a number of Republicans take issue with OCE investigating anonymous tips and have been looking for a way to ensure that accusers of wrongdoing must attach their name to a complaint.



One of Trump’s major pledges is to “drain the swamp,” but ethics groups were having a hard time seeing how removing the independence of an ethics watchdog that has provided aggressive oversight and detailed reports of potential wrongdoing was in keeping with that pledge.



“This is a shameful move by House Republicans that’ll weaken ethics oversight and make members less accountable for their actions,” said Adam Smith of the liberal advocacy group Every Voice.



Daniel Schuman, the policy director of the activist organization Demand Progress, also had stern words.

“With today’s action  —  taken behind closed doors and with no opportunity for public debate  —  the House now rolls back the clock to an era of corruption and decay. We will all be the worse for it,” Schuman said.


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Re: Welcome to the 115th Congress. We are in BIG trouble!

Postby Vinnie_Big_Dog » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:53 am

Update: Even Trump has a problem with this...sort of. "Not a priority"

Donald Trump criticizes Republicans' move to gut watchdog

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/politics/ ... index.html
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Postby Vinnie_Big_Dog » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:42 pm

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Postby John Galt » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:32 pm

Reminder: Independent counsel is what gave us the Lewinsky scandal. being able to investigate without scope to look for wrongdoing is wrong. further the public ALWAYS believes the accuser/government and will always damn someone for something immediately so stopping unsubstantiated claims from going public protects national interests. example would be claiming russia hacked the election when no proof exists for that claim, and then doubling down and creating a diplomatic mess (thanks obama)
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Postby spacemonkey » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:27 pm

Whoever wanted it gutted should be the first to have their ethics checked. Seems they would be the ones with the most to hide.
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Postby NAB » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:29 pm

spacemonkey wrote:Whoever wanted it gutted should be the first to have their ethics checked. Seems they would be the ones with the most to hide.


It was led by GOP members who had previously been under investigation by said Ethics office. Surprising.
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Postby ToddStarnes » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:53 am

John Galt wrote:Reminder: Independent counsel is what gave us the Lewinsky scandal. being able to investigate without scope to look for wrongdoing is wrong. further the public ALWAYS believes the accuser/government and will always damn someone for something immediately so stopping unsubstantiated claims from going public protects national interests. example would be claiming russia hacked the election when no proof exists for that claim, and then doubling down and creating a diplomatic mess (thanks obama)

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Re: Welcome to the 115th Congress. We are in BIG trouble!

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:40 am

Congressional ethics is an oxymoron. Take off the facade
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Re: Welcome to the 115th Congress. We are in BIG trouble!

Postby spacemonkey » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:33 pm

NAB wrote:
spacemonkey wrote:Whoever wanted it gutted should be the first to have their ethics checked. Seems they would be the ones with the most to hide.


It was led by GOP members who had previously been under investigation by said Ethics office. Surprising.

Not much surprises me any more. Now, to the front of the ethics investigation line for those cretins.
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