Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:15 pm

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:Or this one by me:

The reason why Assad isn't bombing whole cities is because he wants them back. Having troops on the ground is meaningless if your entire city is isolated by air power. All Assad has to do to defeat Aleppo is bomb convoys going into the city, and wait. Are you really that unfamiliar with military tactics? You remove his air power, you have also removed his ability to engage rebel forces in a way that benefits him.


Wow sounds like exactly what is going on now.

Where are you Comrade? I want to see all these wrong-headed predictions of mine.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... leppo.html

lol you're really bad at this. did you think it was the rebels who were dropping bombs from helicopters and jets?


Do you understand the difference between "isn't" and "won't?"

I can break it down if you like.
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby The Comrade » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:16 pm

exploited wrote:
The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:Here's a good one.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2298&hilit=Syria&start=230#p108047

we don't live in the tom clancy universe. that isn't going to happen. russia has literally nothing to gain from fighting a f**k cold war era proxy war with the US and then starting a war with NATO and israel.


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Note here that what I expected wasn't a war between Israel and Russia, but serious issues arising from Israel taking out advanced Russian weaponry. In his typical play loose with the facts style, Comrade's response was that I thought Russia and Israel would literally go to war.



you went on for pages and PAGES about how russian AA batteries in syria were going to shoot down israeli and american jets because reasons and fight NATO. you actually jumped on the "syria will cause ww3" bandwagon.

discredited.


Please go ahead and post this. Should be plenty of material to choose from.


Also, getting into a proxy war with Russia, and potentially sparking a conflict between Russia and Israel, for no other reason than a hypothetical moral hazard... just wow...


Really, so why is Russia sending Syria advanced anti-aircraft weaponry... to take down the planes flown by the rebels?


stay losing ex B-)
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:17 pm

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I suppose you've forgotten that the proxy war between Russia and the US in Afghanistan started with anti-aircraft weapons, and as losses started accumulating, the war expanded dramatically, to the point that the CIA was spending billions of dollars to arm the resistance. They even trained them through Pakistan's security services.


This is where I predict conflict expansion along proxy war lines.

not sure if you're aware but terrorist motivation isn't a health bar that gets filled up by a set amount of actions. they're already as angry at us as they're going to be in order to motivate terrorism. we crossed that rubicon ages ago. you think not getting involved in syria will change anything? talk about naivete. and i'm not sure why you think i want to support the rebels? more dumbass assuming on your part?


This is where Comrade starts pretending he doesn't want to support the rebels and I laugh at him for being full of shit.


i didn't want to support them back then. i wanted an actual US military intervention.

stay losing, ex.


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Yeah that's a winning strategy right there.
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:18 pm

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:
The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:Here's a good one.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2298&hilit=Syria&start=230#p108047

we don't live in the tom clancy universe. that isn't going to happen. russia has literally nothing to gain from fighting a f**k cold war era proxy war with the US and then starting a war with NATO and israel.


:))

Note here that what I expected wasn't a war between Israel and Russia, but serious issues arising from Israel taking out advanced Russian weaponry. In his typical play loose with the facts style, Comrade's response was that I thought Russia and Israel would literally go to war.



you went on for pages and PAGES about how russian AA batteries in syria were going to shoot down israeli and american jets because reasons and fight NATO. you actually jumped on the "syria will cause ww3" bandwagon.

discredited.


Please go ahead and post this. Should be plenty of material to choose from.


Also, getting into a proxy war with Russia, and potentially sparking a conflict between Russia and Israel, for no other reason than a hypothetical moral hazard... just wow...


Really, so why is Russia sending Syria advanced anti-aircraft weaponry... to take down the planes flown by the rebels?


stay losing ex B-)


Potentially sparking a conflict means I said WW3 was gonna happen definitively as a result? More Comrade Comprehension issues lol.

And, yeah, of course Russia was sending AA weaponry to dissuade US or Israeli military intervention. Are you denying that?
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby The Comrade » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:18 pm

exploited wrote:Do you understand the difference between "isn't" and "won't?"

I can break it down if you like.



yeah i'm aware, it's just not relevant. he was bombing cities from the start. in fact the massacres at homs and the early protest sites were aerial bombings in some cases.

honestly it's my fault for not slamming your face in humble pie when you first posted this comment.
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby The Comrade » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:20 pm

exploited wrote:
The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:
I suppose you've forgotten that the proxy war between Russia and the US in Afghanistan started with anti-aircraft weapons, and as losses started accumulating, the war expanded dramatically, to the point that the CIA was spending billions of dollars to arm the resistance. They even trained them through Pakistan's security services.


This is where I predict conflict expansion along proxy war lines.

not sure if you're aware but terrorist motivation isn't a health bar that gets filled up by a set amount of actions. they're already as angry at us as they're going to be in order to motivate terrorism. we crossed that rubicon ages ago. you think not getting involved in syria will change anything? talk about naivete. and i'm not sure why you think i want to support the rebels? more dumbass assuming on your part?


This is where Comrade starts pretending he doesn't want to support the rebels and I laugh at him for being full of shit.


i didn't want to support them back then. i wanted an actual US military intervention.

stay losing, ex.


:))

Yeah that's a winning strategy right there.


moving the goal posts i see.

but yes, it is. it worked in libya.

"HUR DUR LIBYA IS A FAILED STATE!!!"

the consolidation of libya by the legitimate armed forces and the rebels was only halted due to the presence of ISIS. work on that front has taken priority for the time being. you'll see when libya pulls itself back together.
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby The Comrade » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:21 pm

exploited wrote:Potentially sparking a conflict means I said WW3 was gonna happen definitively as a result? More Comrade Comprehension issues lol.

And, yeah, of course Russia was sending AA weaponry to dissuade US or Israeli military intervention. Are you denying that?



no but you were the one saying russian AA was going to shoot down american and israeli planes, or rather implying it, and spark a wider conflict.

you got egg on your face. just admit it and move and most importantly stay losing B-)
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:21 pm

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:Do you understand the difference between "isn't" and "won't?"

I can break it down if you like.



yeah i'm aware, it's just not relevant. he was bombing cities from the start. in fact the massacres at homs and the early protest sites were aerial bombings in some cases.

honestly it's my fault for not slamming your face in humble pie when you first posted this comment.


Yes, he was bombing cities. Bombing whole cities suggests a much larger scale thing, i.e. carpet bombing. At that time, the war wasn't that large and the destruction wasn't even close to the link you just posted.

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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby The Comrade » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:22 pm

exploited wrote:Yes, he was bombing cities. Bombing whole cities suggests a much larger scale thing, i.e. carpet bombing. At that time, the war wasn't that large and the destruction wasn't even close to the link you just posted.

Next.


have you seen aleppo? homs? half the small cities in syria? most of them look like dresden or berlin in 1945.

you're way out of your depth here and no amount of semantics are going to save you.
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Re: Russia Started Bombing Anti-Assad Rebels

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:23 pm

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:Potentially sparking a conflict means I said WW3 was gonna happen definitively as a result? More Comrade Comprehension issues lol.

And, yeah, of course Russia was sending AA weaponry to dissuade US or Israeli military intervention. Are you denying that?



no but you were the one saying russian AA was going to shoot down american and israeli planes, or rather implying it, and spark a wider conflict.

you got egg on your face. just admit it and move and most importantly stay losing B-)


Seriously, you can't read. Its sad. What I said is that the US invading Syria directly would result in a proxy war between Russia and the US. Which is absolutely true. Russian AA would be used against American jets, just like Russia bombers are being used against American allies.

Honestly, this is sad dude.
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