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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby RoyBatty » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:38 am

This is the last thing I have to say on this subject, since it is now quite impossible to avoid a continuing and lengthy debate on the travel habits of Geert Wilders.

I have to say though, it's pretty obvious to me by the substance (or lack thereof) within your last few replies that you're trolling, in fact perhaps you have been all along. If so, congratulations, you've killed a few hours of boredom for both of us. Honestly I just can't see your last reply as anything else, considering you've now effectively ignored precedence, historically factual data, you are arguing against your own Asylum Tribunal's judgment, and still searching for any way at all to dismiss, confuse, and otherwise distract from that which has long since proven your own extremely naive assertions r.e. free speech as complete bollocks.

Thing is, I don't choose to spend my time unnecessarily entertaining these tiny irritations, and I'm not here for the purpose of eternal reiteration, anymore than I would knowingly contribute to this thread devolving further into off-topic, laborious nonsense. You've now prodded forth and extracted some fairly abysmal straw-man fallacies from my posts, 5 times already. Really lil bit, I offered the benefit of doubt for your original argument, but at this point the content you are trying to extract and rearrange from my replies has to be purposefully obtuse, otherwise your falling dangerously close to the level of blundering idiot.

Either way, practice your 'circular argument shuffle' in another thread, with someone who finds this happy crap entertaining. Personally I find this sort of never-ending dance to be an insufferable bore. I'd much rather pick a scab or commit ritual seppuko. If and when you, Boris, or I can be assed enough to start a Geert "Ban The Quran" Wilders thread, we can certainly have at a proper and objective debate ad-infinitum, but this OP just not the appropriate place for it.

In other words...

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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby lil bit » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:53 am

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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby lil bit » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:21 am

OK, getting back to the original point of this topic, which is: was publishing those stupid cartoons standing up for free speech?

No, of course not. It was just about cynically exploiting a certain situation to sell magazines.

There was no question of whether they could do it, because, of course they could. Just as magazines could publish those topless photos of the Duchess of Cambridge, if they so chose - which some did.

Those that didn't, decided publishing them would blow up in their faces. Not for any other reason.

I'm not impressed with anyone being offensive just because they can. I certainly don't believe we must be offensive just because we can.

Publishing those cartoons upset decent law abiding people, who happen to be Muslim, in order to provoke a response from the extremists so certain right wing groups could gleefully point out the intolerance and violence of Islam.

Talk about pouring oil on the flames.
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby Ben Huh » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:40 pm

..."if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit."
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby lil bit » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:10 am

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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby eric » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:33 am

Even when not deliberately causing offense, Muslims still get riled up.

Case and point:

South Park.

Regularly shows Jesus on the TV show doing things that are occasionally very un-Christian. Shows Saddam Hussein having sex with Satin and stuff.

How many people were killed by that?

Flash forward:

South Park.

Attempts to show Mohammad on the show in an entertaining manner

Show is censored.

That's a problem.

You can be offended by satire, but you don't get to blow up and murder people because of your offense. Bottom line.
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby lil bit » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:58 am

Obviously you're wrong, because people do get murdered and blown up.
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby The Comrade » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:09 am

something sunny about the south park mohammed thing.

they showed mohammed once in one of the early seasons and nothing was said about it.
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

Postby Ben Huh » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:18 pm

..."if the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of a divine reward, then brother, that person is a piece of shit."
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Re: French Magazine Stands up for FS

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