NAB wrote:jimmyz wrote:NAB wrote:jimmyz wrote:We have arrested US citizens for terrorism here. A US citizen killed 13 at Fort hood. 2 US citizens tried to kill the cartoon makers in Texas. The guy last week in Massachusetts was a US citizen wanting to behead someone with the knife he was carrying. These people need to be electronically found and tracked domestically and worldwide. Where are your rights to privacy in public, if you consider sending and receiving communications using the airwaves as public space, enumerated in the Constitution? I don't remember where myself.
Did the NSA foil any of those events? Prism was in place for most, if not all of them. Again, the NSA foiled exactly one known "plan", and it involved someone funding something for $8000 in the San Diego area iirc. Was pretty small potatoes, if really even a serious plan. Great return on our investment there, the invasion of our rights aside.
I'm always confused why some people who are so for upholding the 2nd Amendement can be so quick to disregard the 4th.
The 4th doesn't cover Ahmed in Syria. I believe they need a warrant before they can listen in on you calls NAB. Your Fourth Amendment rights are intact.
Your post would make sense if the NSA limited its data collection to non U.S. citizens. In fact, they do the exact opposite, and tried to do so intentionally in secret until they were outed. They are able to circumvent the warrants by claiming its meta-data (and by having FISA courts who never say no to them), and meta-data is more privacy invasive than simply listening in on your calls. Go do some reading on what they were collecting and you might change your tune. I'd be completely cool with the NSA if they actually were doing what they claimed or should be doing. Why do you think the Patriot Act issue has been such an issue? The NSA took a poorly written clause in the original horrible Act and ran with it.
I'm trying to think what they would have on me. Nope they still have nothing. I'm probably in the boring middle-aged dude server archives so it matters to me little. I'd be pissed if they sold my #s to phone solicitors though. Maybe I should get up-in-arms more about Google and Radio Shack doing that sort of thing.