Tragic KingdomII wrote:What are you talking about? There are 1.6 billion Muslims world wide, only 400 million live in the middle east. So aside from the 75% of Muslims who aren't in the middle east, almost all of the world's muslims are in the middle east? wtf...
Yes, and I'm saying when you exclude the subcontinent, which is ~500 million muslims, and Indonesia, 200M, then you realize just about everyone else left is in the middle east. And fortunately, Muslims in India and Bangladesh and Indonesia don't politicize their religion in a way that leads them to war and terrorism. So counting them here really is irrelevant to the conversation. Indonesia is muslim but honestly has little to nothing to do with middle eastern politics, or the rift between sunni or Shia. Throwing them into the sunni camp and then saying we aren't looking at islam as a whole is a dumb comment when the conversation is about sectarian strife in the middle east.
I don't disagree about political influence and theology. Islam after all was born in the middle east. That doesn't mean you can ignore the roughly 60%+ of Muslims who live in South & South East Asia.
Yes, it does. When the conversation explicitly focuses on religious conflict in the middle east, no one is talking about what Muslims do in Indonesia, or Bangladesh. It would be like me saying christian violence in Nigeria is on the rise, and you pointing out there are 2 billion christians in the world, many in the united states, so my comment is unfounded. It's completely off-topic and out of context.
I guess you can make an argument that Shia Middle Easterns are more in tune with western culture than Sunni Middle Easterns, although I would still disagree with that statement.
When it comes to picking sides they certainly are. Sure some Sunni's are moderate but you also end up with a mix and match of terrorists and fundamentalists. The Saudi's and Egyptians masterminded and carried out 9/11. The Sunni's in Iraq fought us for a decade. The Sunni's in Afghanistan fought us for a decade. The Sunni's in Yemen blew a hole in the Cole. Sunni's from north Africa blew up trains in Madrid and London. Sunni's in ISIS crucify people and burn them alive. I don't give a shit how many billions of moderate sunni's there may be the world over, when associating with them means supporting characters that plotted 9/11 and lay IED's for American troops to stumble on, I'm againt that side.