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Re: UN votes to recognize Palestinian statehood
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Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:36 am
by eynon81
Re: UN votes to recognize Palestinian statehood
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:40 am
by eynon81
If the Palestinians were savvy with this, and they won't be, they could use it in Civil Court to start getting damages from the Israelis for the settlements....those damages would then be promptly embezzled and put in Mahmoud Abbas' Swiss bank account.
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:40 am
by Dylan
So the only thing you feel would be valuable is a direct jump to global governance?
Yet you recognize that even in the limited context of the UN countries are reluctant to cede soverignty.
So you envision countries who are unwilling to cede soverignty to a limited-influence entity like the UN one day magically deciding to give up soverignty to a true global government? That doesn't make much sense. The more rational and intelligent perspective is that the UN and similar agencies lay the foundation for long term development of true global governance. Your vision of the world is naive and illogical.
Listing conflicts does nothing unless your metric is that any conflict suggests that the UN had failed. Is that your argument?
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:48 am
by exploited
Re: UN votes to recognize Palestinian statehood
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:50 am
by NAB
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:52 am
by Dylan
So to reiterate, the UN must have a 100% effectiveness rate in prveventung or ceasing conflict for you to feel it is a worthwhile organization? Just to make sure I'm understanding your argument correctly.
International law has been wildly successful in numerous areas. This is acknowledged by every learned observer of the institution. The fact that you are unaware of such successes tells me you haven't done your research. Which is hardly surprising.
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:53 am
by exploited
Mod edit. Stay on topic. -u
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:59 am
by Dylan
Mod edit. Discuss the topic, not the poster. -u
Re: UN votes to recognize Palestinian statehood
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:06 am
by WizardfromOz
Re: Palestine gains statehood.
Posted:
Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:06 am
by Dobby