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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby exploited » Fri May 16, 2014 9:31 pm

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The Comrade wrote:It is kind of rare. Even some targaryens got away. No one from the house at castamere did though. Wiping out houses is not something you do.


...But there are two Starks still alive...

There are 4. All but 1 is presumed dead though.

But we're talking about the Reynes, not the Starks.


Yeah I really don't care that much.
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby Philly » Fri May 16, 2014 9:36 pm

K then. Tywin it is. :ymparty:
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby The Comrade » Fri May 16, 2014 9:40 pm

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The Comrade wrote:It is kind of rare. Even some targaryens got away. No one from the house at castamere did though. Wiping out houses is not something you do.


...But there are two Starks still alive...



oh i didn't know the starks were actually the reynes of castamere.
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby exploited » Fri May 16, 2014 9:49 pm

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The Comrade wrote:It is kind of rare. Even some targaryens got away. No one from the house at castamere did though. Wiping out houses is not something you do.


...But there are two Starks still alive...



oh i didn't know the starks were actually the reynes of castamere.


Yeah I really don't care that much.
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby The Comrade » Fri May 16, 2014 9:57 pm

then stop talking about it
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby exploited » Fri May 16, 2014 10:40 pm

Bronn is more badass than Tywin regardless of your hilariously intricate knowledge of the GoT world.

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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby The Comrade » Fri May 16, 2014 10:46 pm

i think i know more about both characters than you
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby exploited » Fri May 16, 2014 10:49 pm

The Comrade wrote:i think i know more about both characters than you


I agree absolutely.

As should be obvious by the fact that I confused the Rains of Castemere with the Red Wedding :))

No f**k given, just like Bronn.
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby Saz » Sat May 17, 2014 6:26 am

What's Tywin's chill to pull ratio? 0/0 the dude is always too upset about his family to chill or pull. How can a f**k 0 be the most badass character? Because he is genocidal? Tywin sounds more like hitler than an actual badass. Meanwhile Bronn is basically playing grand theft auto IRL. Slaying wenches, always drinking, killing people. He has chosen to follow the only capable and sane person in westerns, so we know he is intelligent also and not just some ogre. Tywin meanwhile has like 4 incestious grandkids who all appear to be little pricks, and he spends his life managing the affairs of these things. That's beta as FUKK.
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Re: Most Badass Man (or Woman) in History

Postby exploited » Sat May 17, 2014 6:42 am

Shooter Mcgavin wrote:What's Tywin's chill to pull ratio? 0/0 the dude is always too upset about his family to chill or pull. How can a f**k 0 be the most badass character? Because he is genocidal? Tywin sounds more like hitler than an actual badass. Meanwhile Bronn is basically playing grand theft auto IRL. Slaying wenches, always drinking, killing people. He has chosen to follow the only capable and sane person in westerns, so we know he is intelligent also and not just some ogre. Tywin meanwhile has like 4 incestious grandkids who all appear to be little pricks, and he spends his life managing the affairs of these things. That's beta as FUKK.


I did a bit of reading about Tywin's claim to fame. Basically the Reyne's got uppity, and Tywin's dad was a bitch, so Tywin put them down. Then he put all of the Reyne's to the sword and left their bodies to rot on the walls of Casterly Rock for years, as a warning to any future upstarts who had the thought of challenging Lannister rule.

That's kind of badass. So he killed an entire family. But guess what? For all his early years badassery, Tywin has one and only one real way to sustain his house: political manuevering. He doesn't have any gold coming out of the mines. Rather than do something new to keep his wealth up, he has simply given it away to a King he never liked, but didn't do shit about. This is pretty similar to how he behaved with the Mad King. He pretty much left it to the rebels to beat back the Targareyn's, then swept in to take the last city. The guy is really kind of a bitch when you think about it, although I could see how that type of character could appeal to Comrade. He is broke, with incestuous kids, and a really tenuous grasp on the throne, and the Iron Bank about to endorse Stannis' rule. It's pathetic really. Whereas a quick readup of Bronn shows a steady and amazing series of conquests, made possible by no one but Bronn himself (certainly not a family name and a pile of money to hire an army with):

Bronn is a sellsword; a mercenary soldier whose service as a warrior is for hire. Not much is known about his past; When Tyrion Lannister introduced him to Tywin Lannister, Bronn said that his father is no one Lord Tywin would know. During a drinking game with Tyrion and Shae, Bronn claims that he killed a woman before he was 12 years old, though it was in self-defense as she was attacking him with an axe. Bronn also confirmed Tyrion's claim that Bronn has been beyond the Wall. When asked why he was there, he bluntly answers that he was "working".[1] Despite Bronn's avaricious nature, which is sneered at by more honorable knights, he is a skilled and dangerous fighter.[2] His combat style centers around speed, dodging enemy attacks instead of blocking them, for this reason, he does not wear heavy armor or use shields, but instead relies on just his sword and knives. He is also a skilled archer[3] and is apparently literate.[4]


Tywin: killed a family when he was young

Bronn: Killed a woman attacking him with an axe before he was 12; has went and survived beyond The Wall, to make money no less; one of the best fighters in the world, doesn't use armor; skilled archer, literate, got knighted by hitching to the right post; now training the guy who was also considered one of the best swordsman in the world for a time.

Also, Tyrion is more badass than daddy by a long shot.
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