Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby eynon81 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:39 am

JDHURF wrote:This is the only thread that I am following right now.


we really need to do a "so now what?" politics-wise thread. I honestly don't think the problem is us or PCF, it's just that you can't have been following American politics for as long as we have without becoming extremely jaded.

I half-assed tried to get a conversation like that going in your thread about the FBI breakins.

as to this thread, you may find this interesting. in the early modern period "common persons" armies took a step back when compared to the late medieval period.

The German Peasant's rebellion of the early 16th century fared worse than the English Peasant's of the 14th century:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants'_War

and the Florentine Militia of the same period were obliterated by professional Spanish Mercenaries at Prato in 1512, whereas their 12th century ancestors had held their own against the armies of the Holy Roman Emperor.

Thank god for the invention of the rifle.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Bauce » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 am

What other misconceptions do I probably have about warfare back on the day?
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby The Comrade » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:49 am

battles were almost never won by brilliant strategy and tactics, but rather a major f**k by the other side that is so soul crushingly stupid it would be impossible not to exploit.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby eynon81 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 10:58 am

The Comrade wrote:battles were almost never won by brilliant strategy and tactics, but rather a major f**k by the other side that is so soul crushingly stupid it would be impossible not to exploit.



a think a nicer way of phrasing it would be "lack of command and control".

I feel bad for the King of France.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Medius » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:05 am

The Comrade wrote:battles were almost never won by brilliant strategy and tactics, but rather a major f**k by the other side that is so soul crushingly stupid it would be impossible not to exploit.


In such a world, not screwing up is a brilliant strategy.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby The Comrade » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:28 am

what's that roman saying, you cannot err twice in war?
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby eynon81 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:56 am

The Comrade wrote:what's that roman saying, you cannot err twice in war?


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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby The Comrade » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:25 pm

odd how a statement on warfare lost meaning 2000 years later
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby eynon81 » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:32 pm

The Comrade wrote:odd how a statement on warfare lost meaning 2000 years later



heh...and a situation where the technology of the time made it virtually impossible to actually destroy the enemy army.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Medius » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:38 pm

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The Comrade wrote:odd how a statement on warfare lost meaning 2000 years later



heh...and a situation where the technology of the time made it virtually impossible to actually destroy the enemy army.


Yeah, I find it fascinating that we live in an era where it is actually possible to truly destroy your enemies, yet it is now entirely impossible to win a war.
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