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Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby PoS » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:00 pm

Video from : old youtube.com


Here's an entertaining video on the subject of drawing swords from scabbards on how Hollywood is doing it wrong. The other videos on ancient weapons from this author is pretty good too.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Professor » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:26 pm

I wonder why they didn't build sharpeners into the scabbards. Right near where the hilt is, put a couple of whetstones criss-crossing to form a "V". That way, whenever you drew or sheathed your weapon, it would sharpen it slightly.

I have a "scabbard" for a kitchen knife that is like that. Every time you use it, it sharpens itself. Wonderful little gadget.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby PoS » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:56 pm

I think the vid explained that part- metal expands when its cold so putting metal on metal might get your sword stuck. Also jap swords are sharpened in between battlws and European swords really dont need sharpening since they rely more n brute force than cutting edge.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby The Comrade » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:45 am

my rooster makes that sound when i pull it out of my pants so i call bullshit on this video
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Stratego » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:21 am

PoS wrote: metal expands when its cold.

Does it?
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Spider » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:31 pm

Yep. Totally.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Esin » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:05 pm

PoS wrote:I think the vid explained that part- metal expands when its cold so putting metal on metal might get your sword stuck. Also jap swords are sharpened in between battlws and European swords really dont need sharpening since they rely more n brute force than cutting edge.



That was my first reaction too. Due to the tendency of Medieval soldiers to wear amour most European Blades tended to rely more on size and crushing impact and speed to the point that being super sharp wasn't an especially important factor.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Professor » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:54 pm

Stratego wrote:
PoS wrote: metal expands when its cold.

Does it?


Only problem is that . . . metal SHRINKS when it gets colder.

That's why, if you want an interference fit on 2 metal parts, you heat the outer part, cool the inner part, then insert the cool part into the hot one, and let them reach equilibrium. Once they do, you need a hydraulic press to remove the inner one.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby Professor » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:57 pm

Esin wrote:
PoS wrote:I think the vid explained that part- metal expands when its cold so putting metal on metal might get your sword stuck. Also jap swords are sharpened in between battlws and European swords really dont need sharpening since they rely more n brute force than cutting edge.



That was my first reaction too. Due to the tendency of Medieval soldiers to wear amour most European Blades tended to rely more on size and crushing impact and speed to the point that being super sharp wasn't an especially important factor.


How many "soldiers" actually wore armor, though? Armor would have been very expensive. I seem to remember that it was reserved mainly for knights. Soldiers wore leather hauberks and such. That's why archers were so effective.

Against boiled leather, which can act as padding and absorb blunt-force trauma a bit, a dull sword might break a bone. But, a sharp one will cut through the leather and whatever is underneath it.

Not saying that any of this disproves the OP. Sharpening a sword between battles is going to be as effective as anything else. But, I think they wanted sharp AND heavy swords.
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Re: Drawing Swords, Hollywood Style

Postby The Comrade » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:01 pm

quality steel worth sharpening would have been owned by knights almost exclusively, and a sharp sword isn't going to cut through plate mail. it'll just chip.
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