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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby Precocity » Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:27 pm

Texas hands down. California would be too busy fighting amongst themselves.
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby eynon81 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:54 pm

Medius wrote:Texas would sweep the midwest.


yeah no. we'd stall your low-altitude, warm-weather asses in the Sangre de Cristos and wait for our allies from the Upper Mid-West and North-West to bring up their forces. Launch winter offensive, obliterate Texan's 6th army. Be in Dallas by June.


or we'd just nuke Houston.

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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby OGPhilly » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:57 pm

eynon81 wrote:or we'd just nuke Houston.

f**k waiting for a civil war. Why hasn't this been done already?
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby The Dharma Bum » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:16 pm

You guys have it all wrong.

It would be Aztlan vs Cascadia vs Confederacy vs Megalopolis.
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby eynon81 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:47 pm

The Dharma Bum wrote:You guys have it all wrong.

It would be Aztlan vs Cascadia vs Confederacy vs Megalopolis.


shit would be epic.

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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby Spider » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:33 pm

I missed a really fun thread. :(
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby eynon81 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:24 am

Spider wrote:I missed a really fun thread. :(


don't worry I rep'd our side (the Holy Methodist Empire)....seriously though, if we took the north-western quarter of the continent, we'd have a f**k -win country.
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby Menson » Thu May 02, 2013 3:41 pm

Given that I am from New Hampshire, here is my analysis:

Given the "live free or die" sentiment in NH, our virtual lack of gun laws, and the sheer amount of mountain filled wilderness, NH would end up being the Afghanistan of North America. Nearby New York would attempt to invade NH to exploit our people and natural resources, but they would end up fighting a long war of attrition. Not against armed soldiers, but against small gangs of rednecks hiding out in the woods, taking pot shots at their soldiers and placing IEDs in soda cans. Basically, mirror the experiences of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. We'd ultimately lose, but it would ruin New York financially and leave them vulnerable to invasion by other military powers. If they realized it in advance, they might try to establish a blockade to isolate northern New England; think a Mexican border type of situation.
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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby eynon81 » Thu May 02, 2013 4:04 pm

Menson wrote:Given that I am from New Hampshire, here is my analysis:

Given the "live free or die" sentiment in NH, our virtual lack of gun laws, and the sheer amount of mountain filled wilderness, NH would end up being the Afghanistan of North America. Nearby New York would attempt to invade NH to exploit our people and natural resources, but they would end up fighting a long war of attrition. Not against armed soldiers, but against small gangs of rednecks hiding out in the woods, taking pot shots at their soldiers and placing IEDs in soda cans. Basically, mirror the experiences of U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. We'd ultimately lose, but it would ruin New York financially and leave them vulnerable to invasion by other military powers. If they realized it in advance, they might try to establish a blockade to isolate northern New England; think a Mexican border type of situation.



don't NH rednecks have lots of bros in Maine and Up-state New York? all you need in access to the Great Lakes and then you can trade with the mighty Red-Neck tribes of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Indiana.

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Re: 2nd American Civil War

Postby Esin » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:57 am

It seems unlikely that all 50 states would declare and maintain war on all other states simultaneously so it's likely you would quickly see pacts forming around the strongest states (mainly the ones you mentioned) as they ally with or conquer nearby states. You may even see certain states split apart. I could very easily see Southern Florida splitting away from Northern Florida during a war against a group of southern states (like GA/Al who would likely ally together due to fairly close cultural differences and to maximize resource usage.) Southern Florida might in turn ally with some of the northeastern states since neither really would pose much of a threat to the other and they also have a lot of cultural and economic ties, and FL would provide a good staging ground for the northern states to invade a southern block (probably clustered around GA). Other states might try to stay neutral. Nevada would be a good candidate for that since it has a small population with almost no industrial production and therefore no way to wage war against its bigger neighbors. Otherwise it would ally with California.

Basically my prediction is that groups of states would quickly establish themselves through conquest or alliance as follows:

A north eastern group centered around NY with DC an affiliated but not subjugated Jr. Partner. Southern Florida would likely either be affiliated with this group or would declare neutrality protected by 3 sides by water and bordered on the north by a fairly depopulated region of GA that would be far more distracted fighting a larger threat to its North.

A southern block consisting centered around GA, AL, SC, TN, KY, MS, LA, and maybe AR. This group would be primarily focus on its war with the Northeast and would establish friendly relations with the Texas Bloc.

South Western Bloc - Centered around TX it would include OK MO KS (CO?) NM. AZ is a toss up along with CO which could just as easily go to an East Coast Bloc. Some of those states would willingly affiliate themselves with TX such as AR and OK. Others like NM would likely be invaded and brought into the alliance through force.

The northern mountain states would have no natural population base to establish an independent region and would likely try to remain neutral. However because of their strategic/resource value the larger powers that surround it would likely not respect the neutrality and would either forcibly incorporate the mountain region into their bloc or the bloc will affiliate itself with one of the larger powers as an autonomous jr member. If the mountain states are able to produce a capable leader they might be able to stay independent by playing off various powers against each other or by allying itself with Canada.

The northern Mid West would probably cluster around Chicago/Illinois which might either affiliate itself with the Northeast or remain neutral and try to affiliate itself with the mountain states combining the Mid Wests population with the Mountain Regions plentiful natural resources.

The Pacific Region would form a bloc based around California which would likely include NV WA OR UT (maybe CO & AZ).

These blocs would likely each have one or two main opponents based on geography, culture, resources and history. They would also likely maintain friendly relationships with other blocs. So for example, one could easily imagine the Southern Bloc allying with the Texan Bloc against the Northeastern Bloc which would likely form friendly relations with the Mid Western Bloc based around Chicago. The Texas bloc would likely engage both Californian bloc and the New York bloc but would concentrate on CA on its doorstep but support the Southern Bloc by providing resources such as fuel and food.

The northeast would have an large advantage with regards to both general population and $$$ but it would be disadvantaged with both natural resources (such as fuel) and military equipment which are more heavily centered in southern and regions further to the west.
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