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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby Philly » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:16 am

I didn't say she actively wants the party to lose, just that maintaining her access to fundraising that keeps her relevant as a force internally in the party is higher priority than the party winning.

As to the Democratic field, most of them are using Medicare for All as a slogan and intentionally not defining the policy that they actually mean when they say that. Which is why they use the sleazy qualifier "some version of" Medicare for All. What they mean by that is "Something other than Medicare for All". The Jayapal Bill is the standard since she introduced it this session, but I wouldn't nitpick if someone said the Sanders bill is what they mean when they say M4A.*

Sanders obviously supports M4A. Warren has hedged in the past but unequivocally expressed support for it at the debate and hasn't said anything contradictory to that since as far as I know. Harris also indicated that she's in favor of a single payer plan at the debate but she backpedaled and claimed she misunderstood the question within 24 hours.

So Sanders supports it and Warren now supports it too, which is a recent development if you've actually been listening to her. I guess de Blasio also does but who cares.


* I do not count Senators who cosponsored Sanders' M4A Bill as supporters of the policy in their capacity as a candidate for POTUS unless they have explicitly stated they support it while speaking as a declared candidate.
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby NAB » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:52 am

For those one the right who like get worked up about the Dems, this article should assuage your worries.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/ ... gress.html
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby spacemonkey » Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:39 am

Wonder what the Dem's think about Trumps manufactured border crisis now? They are made to look the fools yet again. Trump 2020. **== MAGA **==
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby Philly » Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:37 pm

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The f**k Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby Philly » Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:16 pm

Hillary Clinton had some kind of brainworms in 2016 that caused her to frame her entire policy agenda around the concessions and compromises that would be necessary to make proposals more palatable to Congress, rather than talking about an actually appealing vision with the non-watered down versions. Everybody knows you campaign on the best-case scenario version of your agenda and worry about the concessions you may have to make when the time comes to push it through Congress, but this lifelong professional politician had parasites that ate the part of her brain responsible for comprehending that. Then the worms somehow spread to shitlibs throughout the country and it seems poor Kane has got them too now.
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby Philly » Fri Jul 05, 2019 9:25 am

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1144 ... 79105.html

More on point than the majority of news media’s coverage so far.
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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby JockandBallTorture » Fri Jul 05, 2019 1:45 pm

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Re: The Dems Want to Lose

Postby Spider » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:23 am

The f**k is going on up in here? Also, why are we not talking about the crazy ranting racist crowd at trump's rally? not sure if it's more surreal that that's a thing that actually f**k happened, or that we're so damn numb to it. The whole thing is goddamn RIPE for Godwin, you internet forum underachievers.
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