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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby Winchester » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:21 pm

Well regarding magazines/accessories I figured it be a hell of a lot easier just to register/stamp the gun as they have serial numbers and there isn't nearly as many of them as mags. If you're okay with the gun, you should be okay with the mags. Also registering them gives the feds a way to track large numbers of purchases in a relatively short amount of time. That being said, mags are cheap, do some kind of buy back at $20/mag good till a certain date and if you're caught with an unregistered/licensed one after that, well that would be bad. Yeah I know you can reload sks, garand etc relatively quickly but they still have a limited number per clip. That being said I shudder to think of the fatalities of 30.06 vs .223 at the distance the guy was shooting at.
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby John Galt » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:17 pm

i'm fine with setting registration on such items, i just don't want to say that it's the same level of restriction to own explosives as semiautomatic rifles.

a suppressed semiautomatic rifle is perfectly legitimate for hunting invasive animals with no bag limit that we want to eliminate as they are destroying the environment, e.g., hogs. it allows you to help save the environment very quickly, from a concealed position. an unsuppressed semiautomatic is less effective as some may scatter, but still vital as they may charge and gore you to death like robert baratheon and you need to have the shots that can save you or maybe even a small child's life or several if a sounder of boars attack
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby Gremlin » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:04 pm

The 1st 20,000 laws didn't work... sooooo...
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby spacemonkey » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:34 am

Maybe they should invent a gun that can read the shooters mind and determine intent, then the gun will decide if it works or not,lol. :-B
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby Kane » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:36 pm

So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


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Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby John Galt » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:52 pm

Kane wrote:So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


.....



Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.


i'll take the bet

the NRA wants the ATF to do it because giving it to congress is basically like putting a bump stock on a rifle. once that trigger is pulled who knows where the lead will end up

oh i heard the most hilarious shit yesterday in the car. apparently bump-stock manufacturers have claimed they are for people with limited finger dexterity
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby Kane » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:10 pm

John Galt wrote:
Kane wrote:So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


.....



Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.


i'll take the bet

the NRA wants the ATF to do it because giving it to congress is basically like putting a bump stock on a rifle. once that trigger is pulled who knows where the lead will end up

oh i heard the most hilarious shit yesterday in the car. apparently bump-stock manufacturers have claimed they are for people with limited finger dexterity


It'll be more fodder for those primary challengers Bannon is trying to field. Congress isn't going to touch it. Trump/DOJ will then have to act...will they?
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby exploited » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:22 pm

John Galt wrote:
Kane wrote:So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


.....



Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.


i'll take the bet

the NRA wants the ATF to do it because giving it to congress is basically like putting a bump stock on a rifle. once that trigger is pulled who knows where the lead will end up

oh i heard the most hilarious shit yesterday in the car. apparently bump-stock manufacturers have claimed they are for people with limited finger dexterity


Yeah, nothing will happen, I've been telling you this. Even if bump stocks are miraculously addressed, it will do nothing to alter the scope of gun violence in America. But this is what you want, right? The status quo?

(This is where you double-down on the same "moderate" bullshit that got you here)
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby John Galt » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:26 pm

exploited wrote:
John Galt wrote:
Kane wrote:So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


.....



Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.


i'll take the bet

the NRA wants the ATF to do it because giving it to congress is basically like putting a bump stock on a rifle. once that trigger is pulled who knows where the lead will end up

oh i heard the most hilarious shit yesterday in the car. apparently bump-stock manufacturers have claimed they are for people with limited finger dexterity


Yeah, nothing will happen, I've been telling you this. Even if bump stocks are miraculously addressed, it will do nothing to alter the scope of gun violence in America. But this is what you want, right? The status quo?

(This is where you double-down on the same "moderate" bullshit that got you here)


there's a chance it may expand in scope, which is why the NRA wants the ATF to regulate it so it won't

you're right hat bump stocks are a limited part of it; handguns are responsible for almost all gun violence. and it is a slim chance it will be addressed but they should be
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Re: Vegas Shooting

Postby spacemonkey » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:42 am

John Galt wrote:
exploited wrote:
John Galt wrote:
Kane wrote:So....I guess the NRA just wanted the ATF to regulate the sale of bump stocks.

The Hill wrote:
NRA opposes legislation banning bump stocks


.....



Told you John, this isn't going anywhere.


i'll take the bet

the NRA wants the ATF to do it because giving it to congress is basically like putting a bump stock on a rifle. once that trigger is pulled who knows where the lead will end up

oh i heard the most hilarious shit yesterday in the car. apparently bump-stock manufacturers have claimed they are for people with limited finger dexterity


Yeah, nothing will happen, I've been telling you this. Even if bump stocks are miraculously addressed, it will do nothing to alter the scope of gun violence in America. But this is what you want, right? The status quo?

(This is where you double-down on the same "moderate" bullshit that got you here)


there's a chance it may expand in scope, which is why the NRA wants the ATF to regulate it so it won't

you're right hat bump stocks are a limited part of it; handguns are responsible for almost all gun violence. and it is a slim chance it will be addressed but they should be

I didn't know the handgun could decide who it shoots. I always thought it was the human holding it.
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