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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby Saz » Thu May 11, 2017 8:53 am

John Galt wrote:
Saz wrote:This thread inspired me to max out my healthcare to the fullest extent possible. Also have a very cute doctor so thanks guys! Wish me luck


good luck for when he gives you a prostate exam


That's not a finger!

lmao jk. Shes some very young Indian chick, almost to young to be a doctor you would think. Huge ring though so shes engaged to a guy richer than me apparently. My only shot to win her over is the testicular exam.
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby Saz » Thu May 11, 2017 9:51 am

I didn't win her over :(
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby spacemonkey » Thu May 11, 2017 11:04 am

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spacemonkey wrote:We need single payer, middleman gone. Now is the time to evolve beyond Neanderthal, if greed isn't to strong. What will we do? lol.


Yeah. That was what Obamacare was supposed to be before Congress transmuted it into a steaming shit on a styrofoam plate. Were you an early supporter of Obamacare?

A national plan is decades overdue. Paying into a system you probably can't access but need now is a freaking joke. Like I said, the middleman needs gone. BTW, a worker with pre existing conditions gets no exemption from paying into a HC plan they probably can't access either. More stupidity to insure middleman profit. My opinion = f**k the middleman and the shareholders.
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby John Galt » Fri May 12, 2017 10:43 pm

Having a single entity for health care presents a single point of failure, and some script kiddie apparently took down the NHS accidentally with a ransom-worm. Sure they could update their shit but if they had a sane healthcare system it would have individual hospitals doing their own thing and if one went down they wouldn't all go down
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby Saz » Sat May 13, 2017 4:58 am

John Galt wrote:Having a single entity for health care presents a single point of failure, and some script kiddie apparently took down the NHS accidentally with a ransom-worm. Sure they could update their shit but if they had a sane healthcare system it would have individual hospitals doing their own thing and if one went down they wouldn't all go down


No, that's really not the case at all. They basically just had a bunch of windows XP computers that were not updated. Not all of the NHS went down, it was literally just computers still on XP. My docs stuff was fine, they still have a parallel private medical system with excellent care, no waits, and hot doctors apparently. I would compare the NHS to the public school system, imagine what would happen if every PC running XP at schools went down.

The government simply does not dedicate enough resources to cyber security. They still haven't realised the digital world is every bit as relevant now as the real world, and in order to effectivley maintain the power of the state and the legitimacy of the state they need to have an absolute dominance online to the point where this sort of thing doesn't happen to government. As you can see we are miles away from that..lets not forget the couldn't even get their website working for obamacare rollout. But still this is essential because as you can see you cannot provide other public goods, like defence, utilities, healthcare, and education, when you do not have complete command of your cyberspace.
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby Saz » Sat May 13, 2017 5:03 am

this would be a good op-ed topic
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby phosphide » Sat May 13, 2017 9:13 am

The ransomware didn't affect just windows xp computers. They were just the least protected.
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby spacemonkey » Sat May 13, 2017 11:40 am

Just because computers may be hacked is still no reason to have stupid draconian policy in the first place. Either way, the middleman and their lust for profit at the expense of your health is total bullshit and needs removed. They can sell insurance for the zombie apocalypse or what ever. But until the American people get over their apathy about their politicians being bribed/lobbied, nothing is going to change. **==
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby John Galt » Sat May 13, 2017 12:34 pm

phosphide wrote:The ransomware didn't affect just windows xp computers. They were just the least protected.


correct. xp is unsupported. while people think this doesn't matter, it means they won't get security patches. however, if you don't patch any windows machine it is vulnerable. if one machine on a network is infected, than any machine on that network that did not have this patch applied would be infected shortly after. those machines that had this patch could still get infected, if the owner did something dumb, but generally this spread by itself. interestingly enough there was a killswitch for it (which required a domain of some nonsense to be registered) and some guy registered the domain and turned it off from spreading in this way, but ever machine that was infected will need to be cleaned. and it doesn't stop someone else from copying the behavior, either

while less that 5% of NHS computers are running XP, one fifth of the NHS was taken down in the attack and will cause estimated additional 6 week delays in receiving treatment according to the FT

as for "the cyber", just the other day trump finally released an executive order on it. he used the word cyber 39 times in it, so it was really all about the cyber
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Re: American Health Care Act of 2017

Postby NAB » Sat May 13, 2017 1:20 pm

John Galt wrote:
phosphide wrote:The ransomware didn't affect just windows xp computers. They were just the least protected.


correct. xp is unsupported. while people think this doesn't matter, it means they won't get security patches. however, if you don't patch any windows machine it is vulnerable. if one machine on a network is infected, than any machine on that network that did not have this patch applied would be infected shortly after. those machines that had this patch could still get infected, if the owner did something dumb, but generally this spread by itself. interestingly enough there was a killswitch for it (which required a domain of some nonsense to be registered) and some guy registered the domain and turned it off from spreading in this way, but ever machine that was infected will need to be cleaned. and it doesn't stop someone else from copying the behavior, either

while less that 5% of NHS computers are running XP, one fifth of the NHS was taken down in the attack and will cause estimated additional 6 week delays in receiving treatment according to the FT

as for "the cyber", just the other day trump finally released an executive order on it. he used the word cyber 39 times in it, so it was really all about the cyber


He knows how to use Twitter, therefore he's an expert on teh cyber.
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