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Senate is going to get nuked

Postby exploited » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:43 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/politics/ ... index.html

Four Senate Democrats announced Monday they plan to oppose Neil Gorsuch, bringing the Democratic caucus to the 41 votes needed to sustain a filibuster against the Supreme Court nominee.

With Sens. Chris Coons of Delaware, Dianne Feinstein of California, Mark Warner of Virginia and Patrick Leahy of Vermont all saying Monday they could not support Gorsuch, Democrats reached the 41 votes they needed to prevent the advancement of Gorsuch's nomination under current chamber rules.

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Knowing full well that the filibuster would likely lead to Republicans using the "nuclear option" to permanently change Senate rules to confirm Gorsuch, Leahy shared his struggle over his decision but ultimately said he "cannot vote solely to protect an institution," adding that he considers Americans' rights at risk with Gorsuch's nomination.


What are your thoughts?

It is a damned shame to see the traditions of the Senate destroyed over this. However I don't see an alternative.
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby Saz » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Nam si violandum est jus, regnandi gratia. Violandum est: aliis rebus pietatem colas
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby John Galt » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:03 pm

it's been a long time coming. the tribalism in this country makes it impossible to not
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby Kane » Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:04 pm

It's a shame.
Stephen Jay Gould wrote:When people learn no tools of judgment and merely follow their hopes, the seeds of political manipulation are sown.
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby NAB » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:06 pm

drain it
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby Spider » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:14 pm

NAB wrote:drain it


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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby exploited » Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:30 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/06/politics/ ... index.html

It's done.

Republicans are vicious and effective, unlike Democrats, but they really f**k up here. If the Democrats grow balls, I can guarantee they will regret this as the demographic squeeze takes hold.
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby phosphide » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:45 pm

I haven't had time to catch up on it, but why are the democrats so opposed to Gorsuch?
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby John Galt » Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:48 pm

phosphide wrote:I haven't had time to catch up on it, but why are the democrats so opposed to Gorsuch?


http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3264 ... on-gorsuch

'special interests' being the reason
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Re: Senate is going to get nuked

Postby phosphide » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:07 pm

John Galt wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/326435-dem-leaders-give-centrists-space-on-gorsuch

'special interests' being the reason


The article doesn't go into much detail but sounds pretty weak to me. That said, I haven't had much time to research it. I'll have to try and catch up this weekend.
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