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Postby John Galt » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:30 am

    The F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, asked the Justice Department this weekend to publicly reject President Trump’s assertion that President Barack Obama ordered the tapping of Mr. Trump’s phones, senior American officials said on Sunday. Mr. Comey has argued that the highly charged claim is false and must be corrected, they said, but the department has not released any such statement.

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    In addition to being concerned about potential attacks on the bureau’s credibility, senior F.B.I. officials are said to be worried that the notion of a court-approved wiretap will raise the public’s expectations that the federal authorities have significant evidence implicating the Trump campaign in colluding with Russia’s efforts to disrupt the presidential election.

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    It is not clear why Mr. Comey did not issue a statement himself. He is the most senior law enforcement official who was kept on the job as the Obama administration gave way to the Trump administration. And while the Justice Department applies for intelligence-gathering warrants, the F.B.I. keeps its own records and is in a position to know whether Mr. Trump’s claims are true. While intelligence officials do not normally discuss the existence or nonexistence of surveillance warrants, no law prevents Mr. Comey from issuing the statement.

    In his demand for a congressional inquiry, the president, through his press secretary, Sean Spicer, issued a statement on Sunday that said, “President Donald J. Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016.”

    Mr. Spicer, who repeated the entire statement in a series of Twitter posts, added that “neither the White House nor the president will comment further until such oversight is conducted.”

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    Mr. Trump’s demand for a congressional investigation appears to be based, at least in part, on unproven claims by Breitbart News and conservative talk radio hosts that secret warrants were issued authorizing the tapping of the phones of Mr. Trump and his aides at Trump Tower in New York.

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    Mr. Trump’s demands for a congressional investigation were initially met with skepticism by lawmakers, including Republicans. Appearing on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday, Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, said he was “not sure what it is that he is talking about.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/p ... hones.html

its interesting that comey is asking the justice dept to deny the tapping, instead of just doing it himself. of course, it could be done by other entities other than the fbi so maybe that is why? but here we have again trump making crazy accusations. he really is old man yelling at cloud
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Re: wiretapping

Postby Divinity11 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:00 am

This is what happens when one surrounds themselves with folks who earn a living selling conspiracy theories to other rubes.

Let ye forget...Breitbart is where good brains go to die.
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Re: wiretapping

Postby NAB » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:00 am

It appears that the only "media" outlet that claimed Trump Tower was wiretapped is Breibart, just so we're clear on where Trump got his "intel". Also, why Clapper said he didn't know about any wiretaps yesterday on MTP, because there weren't any. The FISA warrant had nothing to do with wiretapping, which is why Comey has come back to the surface somewhat to refute this claim.

This is all tied to the bank dealings, and Trump is attempting to deflect back to Obama so his base of mouth-breathers will rally around him.
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Re: wiretapping

Postby Divinity11 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:07 am

NAB wrote:It appears that the only "media" outlet that claimed Trump Tower was wiretapped is Breibart, just so we're clear on where Trump got his "intel". Also, why Clapper said he didn't know about any wiretaps yesterday on MTP, because there weren't any. The FISA warrant had nothing to do with wiretapping, which is why Comey has come back to the surface somewhat to refute this claim.

This is all tied to the bank dealings, and Trump is attempting to deflect back to Obama so his base of mouth-breathers will rally around him.


Yep. It's the, "look at that shiny object over there!!!" tactic.

I sense another one of Trump's victory rallies coming to "a town near you,' very soon.
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Re: wiretapping

Postby jimmyz » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:42 am

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Re: wiretapping

Postby ToddStarnes » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:52 am



What do you think of it, assuming it's true?
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Re: wiretapping

Postby Kane » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:12 am

Maybe Trump is genuinely concerned?
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Re: wiretapping

Postby ToddStarnes » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:26 am

In all fairness it's very touchy and, assuming surveillance occurred, whomever did it better have had 8 layers of oversight watching their back at all times. Surveillance relating to a political candidate, even if justified in this instance, is an incredibly sensitive issue.
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Re: wiretapping

Postby Spider » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:28 am

The issue isn't that trump was under surveillance. I mean, damn. His breath smells like Putin's dick. If the spooks weren't watching him, they weren't doing their jobs.

The issue is that trump claimed OBAMA wire tapped him. Which is libel, frankly.
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Re: wiretapping

Postby ToddStarnes » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:33 am

Spider wrote:The issue isn't that trump was under surveillance. I mean, damn. His breath smells like Putin's dick. If the spooks weren't watching him, they weren't doing their jobs.

The issue is that trump claimed OBAMA wire tapped him. Which is libel, frankly.

Eh, you can basically say anything you want about public figures.
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