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Re: some republicans push carbon tax

Postby exploited » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:13 pm

John Galt wrote:if its been dead for some time, it must be why it is the way it is discussed everywhere that way except for inside of your head

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

also the word "singularity" means "the state, fact, quality, or condition of being singular.". you can't have the singularity already happen but also that requires future inputs, as you are bizarrely attempting to say. perhaps post-singularity you will learn how to read a dictionary


Wikipedia: your source for the most cutting edge philosophical and transhumanism discussions.

Anyways, your autistic insistence on dictionary definitions, when discussing rather complex and futuristic things, is noted.

Did you even bother to read your own article, by the way?

While the technological singularity is usually seen as a sudden event, some scholars argue the current speed of change already fits this description. In addition, some argue that we are already in the midst of a major evolutionary transition that merges technology, biology, and society. Digital technology has infiltrated the fabric of human society to a degree of indisputable and often life-sustaining dependence. A 2016 article in Trends in Ecology & Evolution argues that "humans already embrace fusions of biology and technology. We spend most of our waking time communicating through digitally mediated channels... we trust artificial intelligence with our lives through antilock braking in cars and autopilots in planes... With one in three marriages in America beginning online, digital algorithms are also taking a role in human pair bonding and reproduction". The article argues that from the perspective of the evolution, several previous Major Transitions in Evolution have transformed life through innovations in information storage and replication (RNA, DNA, multicellularity, and culture and language). In the current stage of life's evolution, the carbon-based biosphere has generated a cognitive system (humans) capable of creating technology that will result in a comparable evolutionary transition. The digital information created by humans has reached a similar magnitude to biological information in the biosphere. Since the 1980s, "the quantity of digital information stored has doubled about every 2.5 years, reaching about 5 zettabytes in 2014 (5x10^21 bytes). In biological terms, there are 7.2 billion humans on the planet, each having a genome of 6.2 billion nucleotides. Since one byte can encode four nucleotide pairs, the individual genomes of every human on the planet could be encoded by approximately 1x10^19 bytes. The digital realm stored 500 times more information than this in 2014 (...see Figure)... The total amount of DNA contained in all of the cells on Earth is estimated to be about 5.3x10^37 base pairs, equivalent to 1.325x10^37 bytes of information. If growth in digital storage continues at its current rate of 30–38% compound annual growth per year,[20] it will rival the total information content contained in all of the DNA in all of the cells on Earth in about 110 years. This would represent a doubling of the amount of information stored in the biosphere across a total time period of just 150 years".[46]


It is already happening. Four hundred years from now, people will look back and, with near universality, agree that the internet was the singularity. Just because it doesn't sound like HAL 3000 doesn't actually dispute anything, Galt. No serious philosopher has ever decided that once the singularity happens, technology can't get any better - it is actually the opposite of that. So to say that the internet can't be the singularity because we don't have a particular piece of technology yet is, of course, absurd. The entire idea is about exponential change brought about by superintelligence - you know, like computers that can perform tens of millions of calculations per second, and then communicate the results to virtually anyone or anything, anywhere?

Reminder: it has been twenty years since the internet really took off. Twenty years. Try to even comprehend the changes it has wrought. You can't.

I think the core of your issue is that you want super-intelligence to mean "human like." There is no actual reason for believing that.
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Re: some republicans push carbon tax

Postby John Galt » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:48 pm

yes i did read it. it says some people argue that, but most all discussions have to do with a single point in time after which we are completely different. the singularity is estimated to be in 2045. while the internet will be a part of all of this, it is but a precursor and you are wrong

also you need to call it something else if you think it isn't a single point in time (a "singularity", if you will) but rather something that happens over time, (a "revolution", if you will)

finally i never said technology cannot be better after the singularity. in fact i think technological improvement will be at a rate so fast after the singularity it will be basically the tick rate on the server this simulation is running on: the speed of light. its why its impossible to really comment on what life will be like after the singularity
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Re: some republicans push carbon tax

Postby spacemonkey » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:24 am

In the future, a lot of the disenfranchised will probably become paid protesters to engage in pillage the village events that will spring up for various reasons. Eventually, the have not's probably won't even be viewed as human, but a sub class of troglodytes. This will probably blow the mind of the inclusion crowd.
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Re: some republicans push carbon tax

Postby John Galt » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:15 pm

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