Travel Ban

[John Galt]

[ToddStarnes]

I mean, everybody gets the baseline once you're here (4th amendment, equal protection, etc). I think the shakiest part of the challenge is the portion on behalf of refugees that have never been to the US. I believe they're entitled to some protections but not much at all IIRC. 5 or 6 years ago I could've given a much more satisfactory answer but switching careers and chemo brain leaves my memory of these nuances a little foggy. Lucky for us all, I have the flu and am tired of binging The Leftovers so I'll research this a bit more and get back to you. Unless Saz, fresh from the academy, beats me to it.

[John Galt]

i think that's it's important, because it's not like the order is deporting people in here, jsut turning them back before they get here. or do they turn them back from other airports? i suppose they are being turned back there. i don't see how non-americans get us constitutional protections in not-america, e.g., in the airport in paris, which is why i think your thoughts that the ban would stand would be correct; i have a feeling it's not unconstitutional in terms of violating people's rights, it's just unamerican

if anything would overturn it it would be that the president does not have the authority to make these types of orders and it needs to be done by congress, not that they congress couldn't, if they wished, do something like this. and i do not believe that the framers would have seen this happening, but they wouldn't have seen 100 years of the supreme court spoon feeding the president with legislative powers

[spacemonkey]

[spacemonkey]

Maybe all the protestors should be required to take a refugee home with them.

[Spider]

[John Galt]

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[Spider]

[ToddStarnes]

Lol pwned.

I still see the lawsuit failing on the merits.