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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:12 pm

Can you call into Hannity or Fox News? Be a caller on the show? If I wanted to hurt fox and Trump I might motivate thousands of people to call into the show under false pretenses to bring this up. You know...to get it out there.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby John Galt » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:16 pm

Kane wrote:Can you call into Hannity or Fox News? Be a caller on the show? If I wanted to hurt fox and Trump I might motivate thousands of people to call into the show under false pretenses to bring this up. You know...to get it out there.


not on tv i don't think. best you can do is be like Ken M on cspan and troll them
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:17 pm

WSJ has it on the front page now but it’s...strategically worded. :))

I don’t live in the USA anymore. The “U” is gone.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Starting to think Erick Erickson is right to be worried about eventual civil war.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Spider » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:22 pm

Conservatives have been f**k with for so long they've intellectually seceded already. They are a botnet.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:32 pm

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How do you walk into WSJ every day as a journalist after this crap?
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby John Galt » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:44 pm

help me out here Kane, what is wrong with that in your view
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:10 pm

The last part of the sentence could easily be assigned to the whole of the prior by an unsuspecting reader. The family member could be read as confirming either Trump's assertion of a fabrication or the Dems assertion that it wasn't. Moreoever, it doesn't bother to identify the person from the family as the mother. Which it clearly was. Blatantly.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby John Galt » Wed Oct 18, 2017 7:39 pm

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President Donald Trump denied he made insensitive remarks in a phone call to the widow of a U.S. soldier and accused a Democratic congresswoman of making up the claim, which was supported by a member of the solider's family.

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  (Simple clause S
    (Noun Phrase NP (Proper Noun NPP President) (NPP Donald) (NPP Trump))
    (Verb Phrase VP (denied)
      (Clause introduced by a subordinating conjunction SBAR
        (S
          (NP (Personal Pronoun PRP he))
          (VP
            (VP (Verb, past tense VBD made)
              (NP (Adjective JJ insensitive) (Noun, plual NNS remarks))
              (Prepositional Phrase PP (Preposition IN in)
                (NP (Determiner DT a) (Noun, singular NN phone) (NN call)))
              (PP (To TO to)
                (NP
                  (NP (DT the) (NN widow))
                  (PP (IN of)
                    (NP (DT a) (NNP U.S.) (NN soldier))))))
            (Coordinating conjunction CC and)
            (VP (VBD accused)
              (NP
                (NP (DT a) (JJ Democratic) (NN congresswoman))
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                    (VP (Verb, present participle VBG making)
                      (Particle Category PRT (Particle RP up))
                      (NP
                        (NP (DT the) (NN claim))
                        (, ,)
                        (SBAR
                          ([i]Wh[/i]-noun Phrase WHNP ([i]Wh[/i]-determiner WDT which))
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                            (VP (VBD was)
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                                        (NN family)))))))))))))))))))
    (. .)))


The important thing here is "Clause introduced by a subordinating conjunction SBAR". that clause is a Wh-Phrase, "which" and applies to the thing that preceeded it which was "the claim"

when I read it i read it plainly as the claim was supported by the family. i didn't even consider it the way you read it
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:48 pm

That’s fine but I think others won’t think about it like you do. Either way I think it easily could’ve been worded differently.
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