We're so f*cked

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It's been a year, did Trump Co work with the Russians?

Yes - I read fake news
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby fstarcstar » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:52 pm

ToddStarnes wrote:
fstarcstar wrote:This isn't a matter if whether the people think he is innocent or not, it's whether the supporters believe the media. They probably see it as a similar tactic to what happened to Donald Trump, that it's made up.

Wait, what happened to Donald Trump?


Remember when those women came out and said he assaulted them and he was caught on tape saying grab em by the kitty? That was more damning than Moores issues atm because we actually have it on video for everyone to see.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Spider » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:07 pm

fstarcstar wrote:
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fstarcstar wrote:This isn't a matter if whether the people think he is innocent or not, it's whether the supporters believe the media. They probably see it as a similar tactic to what happened to Donald Trump, that it's made up.


Exactly my point. It's not been "made up" in either case. They brainwashed the masses into believing in the "liberal media", which has of course now transitioned directly into "fake news". And so here we are.

Let them vote, I say. I've been raging about this for years. Let's see just how much damage has been done.


Sorry, but the media does suck. It's not whether they are fake, it's that it's cringe worthy listening to any of them or reading any of their content. From their "experts" to their panel of judges, it's awful. There are good journalists all over, but what you see on TV is horrendous. Doesn't matter if its Fox or CNN.


Well of course it sucks. That's not a new development. What I take issue with is the belief that it's fake and/or part of some vast conspiracy (which is what it would take). There is suck and there is SUCK, however. CNN blows, sure, but Fox is actively complicit in attempting to suppress information. It's a far larger problem.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:32 am

Ehhh...not so sure about that anymore. CNN was at defcon 1 for weeks there and it got exhausting. And they post these shitty stories about Trump not being able to a handshake correctly and other trivial matters when there's plenty to focus on within the policy realm. Real investigative journalism comes more from the more...investigative outlets. Even Axios has been more productive than CNN - CNN just reports it.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:37 am

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/ ... rms-244866

Adelson has publicly ended ties with Bannon and has explicitly announced support for McConnell. I predict this is the beginning of more to come. I'm guessing they're beginning to see how much this is dividing the GOP and how that could affect the midterms in 2018.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:40 am

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN1DE25N

Jeff Sessions can now recall meeting with Papadopolous last year. Amazing how this dude's memory comes back so slowly and so in sync with public developments.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby Kane » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:50 pm

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McConnell: Senate tax bill will include repeal of ObamaCare mandate



Well...there goes the entire healthcare system. What's the thinking behind this? It'll save money?
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby John Galt » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:04 pm

they are secretly wanting it to fail
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby spacemonkey » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:34 pm

John Galt wrote:they are secretly wanting it to fail

Its destined to fail. The average earners don't make enough to support the level of profit they want. However, there is talk of removing the extortion clause, ( buy it or pay a penalty ).
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby spacemonkey » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:38 pm

Kane wrote:
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McConnell: Senate tax bill will include repeal of ObamaCare mandate



Well...there goes the entire healthcare system. What's the thinking behind this? It'll save money?

Obama care mandate = extortion the same as lobby = bribery. See how easy those simple name changes are used to dupe the general masses, and it actually works lol.
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Re: We're so f*cked

Postby John Galt » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:23 am

mn politics blowing up this morning

al franken accused of forcibly kissing a tv host on a USO tour and groping her while she was asleep. oh there's a picture

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and secondly, the MN Supreme Court upheld the governor's line-item veto of all appropriations for the MN legislature for next year. not sure how the budget for the year after that can get passed now, but yeah. we have no legislature once they run out of money now
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