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Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:11 am
by lnrw
The us started the war in 1953.
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:30 pm
by spacemonkey
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:54 pm
by ToddStarnes
Compelling stuff. Which scientific field(s) do you believe offers the tools to ascertain with 100% certainty guilt in each murder case?
Re: Abolish the death penalty
Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:21 am
by John Galt
All punishment is irrevocable. Spending a night in jail is irrevocable. Complaints about hour a punishment is irrevocable are worthless.
In the end your problem is with the idea of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt not being good enough. If you had any bit of consistency you would also state that all punishments should only be meted out against the actual guilty, because that's why you are against the death penalty.
I accept that guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is not for sure guilty in the sense of that they in truth did it. But i must have confidence in that it else the entire justice system is worthless. I know lawyers suck but I wouldn't just claim they are all so incompetent that guilt beyond a reasonable doubt isn't a good enough standard
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:58 am
by Philly
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:18 am
by ToddStarnes
Re: Abolish the death penalty
Posted:
Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:03 am
by John Galt
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:08 am
by John Galt
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:20 am
by lnrw
John, I'm going to take my time with this.
DNA can be contaminated, corrupted or planted.
Re: Abolish the death penalty
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Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:43 am
by spacemonkey