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Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby SmithSmith » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:18 am

Washington (AFP) - A decade of anger over the Iraq war resurfaced in the 2016 US election race on Tuesday, with Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton's campaigns trading blame about that country's continued instability.
Twelve years after president George W. Bush led the United States into an unpopular and troubled conflict, his brother, now a Republican presidential hopeful, accused Democrats of abandoning Iraq before the job was done.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note-bus ... d=33009515

ISIS never existed before the illegal invasion of Iraq. ISIS came to power as an offshoot of Al Qaeda after seeing what how the US was destroying their country. Had it not been for the Bush/Cheney war machine there would be no ISIS and we wouldn't have lost 6 trillion as well as over 4000 dead US soldiers.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Libertarian602 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:51 am

What's this have to do with Jeb Bush?
Clinton voted for the damn war.
Oh wait, I forgot. You just post shit, and defend your position.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Indy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:04 am

Libertarian602 wrote:What's this have to do with Jeb Bush?
Clinton voted for the damn war.
Oh wait, I forgot. You just post shit, and defend your position.


COUGH...

his brother, now a Republican presidential hopeful, accused Democrats of abandoning Iraq before the job was done...

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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Libertarian602 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:32 am

Cough......One's a stupid political talking point, the other is a actual vote to allow America embark on a debacle that will
Have reoccurring consequences for generations to come.

The best thing Clinton can do is pretend Iraq never happened.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Indy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:10 am

Well when it comes to pretending things never happened, Jeb and all the other neoclowns have certainly rewritten history to come to the conclusion that the massive, epic and disastrous failure in Iraq never happened because, oh, if only we had been left there to finish the job ("stay the course") why, Iraq would be the America of the middle east right now.

Have you not watched Cheney & Co. give interviews for the past couple of years?

Clinton may have voted for the war, but she certainly didn't put a staggering incompetent in charge of it in every position, including the bumbling Paul Bremer, who decided that disbanding the Baath party and firing the entire army was somehow a good idea.

And guess what that led to? Yup, exactly what we have now. Not sure what Hillary Clinton had to do with that. Or why Jeb's argument amounts to "Well yew voted for Iraq too so it's your fault!" Pfft.

Even better: what is Jeb's plan now? That we go back? FFS these people are lunatics.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby fstarcstar » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:26 am

Indy you can look up his speech and see his plan...
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby fstarcstar » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:29 am

We never should of pulled out all of our troops and we should of had an established base, spec ops and other resources inside Iraq. Obama horribly made that decision.

ISIS would of happened regardless because Syria has turned into such a god awful place.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby eynon81 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:16 pm

fstarcstar wrote:We never should of pulled out all of our troops and we should of had an established base, spec ops and other resources inside Iraq. Obama horribly made that decision.

ISIS would of happened regardless because Syria has turned into such a god awful place.



they wanted to leave forces in....dip-shit Iraqi gubment said no. not much to be done really.

worst mistake Barry made was getting involved in the Syrian Civil War...if Assad had won early or the parties settled = no ISIS.

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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Indy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:17 pm

fstarcstar wrote:We never should of pulled out all of our troops and we should of had an established base, spec ops and other resources inside Iraq. Obama horribly made that decision.

ISIS would of happened regardless because Syria has turned into such a god awful place.


I like what you did here:

a) assign blame to Obama
b) say that ISIS would have happened regardless

Guess who just got absolved of any blame there? Neat trick. Obama has certainly made some missteps but let's not forget the two morons who got us into this historical disaster, invading a country that never needed to be invaded, with no plan, no clue, no nothing. And now look at it. And these same fools want to take over again, toss the Iran deal and start bombing them.

At one point do you say: enough of these idiots?

Read up about how ISIS is doing very well under former Iraqi generals.

Here's another story about how Iraqi officers are running the ISIS show.

This all goes back to 2003. Any attempt to claim it doesn't is folly.
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Re: Bush, Clinton Trade Blame Over Iraq War

Postby Libertarian602 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:29 pm

Indy wrote:Well when it comes to pretending things never happened, Jeb and all the other neoclowns have certainly rewritten history to come to the conclusion that the massive, epic and disastrous failure in Iraq never happened because, oh, if only we had been left there to finish the job ("stay the course") why, Iraq would be the America of the middle east right now.

Have you not watched Cheney & Co. give interviews for the past couple of years?

Clinton may have voted for the war, but she certainly didn't put a staggering incompetent in charge of it in every position, including the bumbling Paul Bremer, who decided that disbanding the Baath party and firing the entire army was somehow a good idea.

And guess what that led to? Yup, exactly what we have now. Not sure what Hillary Clinton had to do with that. Or why Jeb's argument amounts to "Well yew voted for Iraq too so it's your fault!" Pfft.

Even better: what is Jeb's plan now? That we go back? FFS these people are lunatics.

Please enlighten me, how was Jeb Bush personally responsible for any of the decisions of the Ieaq war?
Oh wait, he wasn't. He was the govoner of Flordia until 2007.

Clinton on the other hand, was a US Senator, who made a conscious decision to vote for the war in Iraq.
Do you see the difference? All I see is you trying to link Bush to his brother's disatourus decision to invade Iraq.
If you wanna talk about legacy guilt, guess we better hold Hillary responsible for her husband's decision to repeat the very same myth of Iraqi WND's, that Bush 43 used to justify the Iraq war.

See how that works?

Next, how is sending troops back to Iraq( oops they've already been sent back by Obama), any different than lets say the current admin an then Sec Clinton actively helping to destabilize Syria and Libya?

Just stop already.
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