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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Kane » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:53 pm

a777pilot wrote:Did I say that muslims were the biggest threat to the USA? No, just that pose a great threat. So do others. Mass illegals coming across a porous border. China in the South China Sea. Russia's quest for the return of their empire. Iran with nukes. Massive government deficit spending.

We are the world's target.


Eh? Our policies make us the target of several expansionist moves by several geopolitical players but that doesn't innately mean we're currently mired in an existential threat. China wants more power over areas within its immediate sphere as it continues to grow, Russia is trying to maintain some semblance of control on it's western border with Europe even if that means combating Western ideals of democracy and integration, and the border is porous because the US offers better opportunities for them than their home countries do.

These are not nefarious plots aimed squarely at the US in an attempt to eradicate us from the face of the planet. These complications are consistent with the woes of a country attempting to maintain stability amongst the chaos so that it might benefit from increased trade, inflows of intelligent foreigners, etc. Your xenophobic tendencies operate counter to this ideal and probably do more to harm the US in the long term than the terrorists hope to achieve in the short.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby a777pilot » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:24 pm

Obama has weakened the US to such a degree that we are being pushed around by any and every nation. All the areas I mentioned in a prior post are very dangerous to the USA. We could be drawn into a war in which we can not fight and win. All in all, a very serious situation for the stability/peace of the world.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Spider » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:34 pm

a777pilot wrote:Obama has weakened the US to such a degree that we are being pushed around by any and every nation. All the areas I mentioned in a prior post are very dangerous to the USA. We could be drawn into a war in which we can not fight and win. All in all, a very serious situation for the stability/peace of the world.


Weakened how?

Be specific. Make a list of capabilities that existed in 2007 but do not exist now. Don't just toss out more talking points.

And then, explain their causal links to Obama himself.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Kane » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:45 pm

a777pilot wrote:Obama has weakened the US to such a degree that we are being pushed around by any and every nation. All the areas I mentioned in a prior post are very dangerous to the USA. We could be drawn into a war in which we can not fight and win. All in all, a very serious situation for the stability/peace of the world.


During the GOP debate Chris Christie listed off a bunch of numbers regarding our troop levels in the different branches of the military. The numbers he provided were actually within current levels +/- 10,000 (depending on the branch).

If there's a war we can't win, it's one that's been defined in such a way as to limit any chance of success. But keep beating that drum buddy. It's looking more and more like foreign policy will once again be the GOP's focus as it's domestic policies continue to grow increasingly unpopular.

For your edification:

Everything the candidates said was a lie or inaccurate

Read that link and watch their talking points get destroyed.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Spider » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:55 pm

Christie's numbers were ridiculous Cold War era nonsense. We no longer need absolute numbers...technology has created capabilities that negate the need for mass attacks.

Edit: yeah, what the FTA link said.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Medius » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:57 pm

Spider wrote:
a777pilot wrote:Obama has weakened the US to such a degree that we are being pushed around by any and every nation. All the areas I mentioned in a prior post are very dangerous to the USA. We could be drawn into a war in which we can not fight and win. All in all, a very serious situation for the stability/peace of the world.


Weakened how?

Be specific. Make a list of capabilities that existed in 2007 but do not exist now. Don't just toss out more talking points.

And then, explain their causal links to Obama himself.


Prior to 2007, we could have taken all of our US presidents, put them in a room together, and not had a black man in that room.
Prior to 2007...

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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Kane » Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:58 pm

Spider wrote:Christie's numbers were ridiculous Cold War era nonsense. We no longer need absolute numbers...technology has created capabilities that negate the need for mass attacks.

Edit: yeah, what the FTA link said.



That article eviscerates every candidate on military knowledge.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby NAB » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:47 am

a777pilot wrote:
Indy wrote:BTW he said only Muslims want theocracy? Really? Tell that to Huckabee, Santorum...


OK! Great idea. Nether of those two are anywhere near the top of who I suport for the GOP Presidential nomination. I support....in this order:

Perry
Kasich
Fallin
Martinez
Walker


You put Perry at the top of your list and you live in Texas? He was a complete moron as a governor, so do you think that will improve if he became president? His new glasses didn't raise his IQ, no matter how much he thinks they did.
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby Ready-for-the-worse » Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:07 am

Kane wrote:
a777pilot wrote:Did I say that muslims were the biggest threat to the USA? No, just that pose a great threat. So do others. Mass illegals coming across a porous border. China in the South China Sea. Russia's quest for the return of their empire. Iran with nukes. Massive government deficit spending.

We are the world's target.


Eh? ... short.

Pardon? Are you serious? Which propagandist Sh*t were you reading to become so brainwashed?
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Re: Too much aggression against Muslims

Postby spacemonkey » Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:10 am

a777pilot wrote:Not even close. Y'all need to pay better attention to what people are saying.

Muslims are a great and current danger to the United States.

At this point in time, the greatest threat to the USA is the White House and Congress.
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