AL Shortchanges itself by Opting out of Obamacare

[BlueSpade]

And you ignored the fact that NY's premiums will still remain the highest in the country. If you're going to be a idiot, at least try being a honest idiot.

[The Comrade]

[The Dharma Bum]

The NYC market is more expensive than most regions for most goods and services, I'd suppose. Part of being in one of the most cosmopolitan markets in the world.

[BlueSpade]

[BlueSpade]

[The Dude]

Do you actually have examples of Obamacare being a trainwreck? because since Obamacare has been passed:

1. health care costs have risen slower
2. premiums have risen slower
3. more people under the age of 26 are covered
4. huge insurance rebates have been given out
5. no more bullshit insurance coverage ie single men paying for maternity care on their coverage.
6. removal of lifetime caps


Furthermore, it is projected to increase the amount of people on insurance in NY while decreasing it by half in premium cost on average, not including the subsidies. The individual market will go from 17k people to well over 600k people as a result. Medicaid will be expanded in the states that take it, putting more poor people on insurance rolls and less emergency costs that are huge. California's premiums are also pretty good for most people who have to buy individual (as is Oregon's) coming up with the subsidies thrown in.

There's no guarantee it will succeed, but there's been no trainwreck. I'm sure you'll point to the employer mandate being delayed, but as I pointed out in the other thread this covers only roughly 1% of the workforce and was done as a courtesy to help them comply with the rules and really mostly for political reasons just to take away a GOP talking point.

More people are going to have healthcare insurance and so far costs are at least slowing down. The states that don't have the medicaid expansion or set up the exchanges themselves are going to be much worse off than those that do.



I'll ask you this. Why is the GOP railing so hard to stop Obamacare? I mean, if it really is a trainwreck, then let it happen. Once it does, everyone will vote the GOP into power to repeal and replace it and the Dems will be damaged for a long ass time. But they know it's not a trainwreck, they know it's going to improve things overall (though not nearly to the amount we need, mind you) and they're going to pay for their opposition which is why they have to f**k it up as much as possible now.

[The Comrade]

careful dude, he has the facts. he told me so.

[The Comrade]

pretty sure alabama short changes alabama by being alabama

[dontworrybehappy]

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