Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

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Postby Philly » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:53 pm

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Philly wrote:My grandmother is not a f**k boomer. How dare you.


If she's 51- whatever years old she is. What? Did your family have a bunch of hussies squeezing out pups at 15?

She's old as hell. She was born in the 1920s.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby jimmyz » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:59 pm

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Philly wrote:My grandmother is not a f**k boomer. How dare you.


If she's 51- whatever years old she is. What? Did your family have a bunch of hussies squeezing out pups at 15?

She's old as hell. She was born in the 1920s.


Your parents are in their seventies then?
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby Dylan » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:03 pm

It would be odd for somebody in their late 20s or early 30s to have a boomer grandparent. My grandma is like 88.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby Saz » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:13 pm

Dylan wrote:It would be odd for somebody in their late 20s or early 30s to have a boomer grandparent. My grandma is like 88.


My grandpa lived through BOTH world wars.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby exploited » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:42 pm

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IndependentProfessor wrote:I love how many of the people in this forum think that it's OK to be stereotypical and prejudiced. "Boomers are killing this country" is perfectly fine to say. Yeah, let's lump together a hundred million people based on the actions of a few.

Serious question - is it more accurate (from a standpoint of number of people for whom the accusation is accurate to number for whom it is inaccurate) to say "Boomers ruined the country" or "black people are thugs"?


The thing is that you can actually backup most of this stuff about Boomers. If you look at polls, what you find in that demographic is a clear, nearly universal desire to keep taxes low, alongside a clear, nearly universal desire to keep all of the entitlements and social programs they have become accustomed too. This is the exact behaviour that has made them the single worst generation in all of American history.


So, they want to do what is best for them individually? Wow, yeah, that's just plain evil!

As compared with the current generation that wants: a high-quality education without paying for it or to be able to start up whatever company they want, regardless of if it has a solid business model.


What is the difference between these two things?

Well, for one, a higher-quality education doesn't just benefit the individual, it benefits society, the economy, interpersonal relationships, etc.

For two, a higher-quality education leads to economic growth, and allows Americans to compete against other nations, who are currently utterly killing them in terms of educating their children.

For three, a higher-quality education is something that will benefit future generations, and not simply save Joe Boomer $47 on his taxes this year.

Lastly, there isn't a single Millennial on this board who wouldn't agree to pay more taxes if those tax dollars were meant to establish universal post-secondary education. Except for maybe Saz, but he has a personality that is both generation-less and timeless.

So, to sum it up, your attempt at equivocating the need to educate our children in a way that ignores class, social status and race, with Boomers doing what they do (sucking the wealth out of every other generation) has failed.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby spacemonkey » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:50 pm

Ahh the joys of a finite world and people thinking finite will never affect them.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby Saz » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:34 pm

Not that any of you illiterates would be aware, but the economist has a piece on the young. Spoiler: BOOMER f**k RUINED EVERYTHING.

SOME PEOPLE DESPAIR of the young. Books such as “Generation Me” by Jean Twenge and “The Road to Character” by David Brooks describe young Americans as deluded narcissists. Having constantly been told they are special, they are now far more likely than their elders to believe that “if I ruled the world, it would be a better place” or that “somebody should write a biography of me.”

They are materialistic, too. About 65% of American college students expect to become millionaires, and some are not too fussy about how they get to the top. In one study of high-school students, 95% admitted to having cheated in tests. The millennials’ expectations of life are so out of kilter with reality that “they will probably get less of what they want than any previous generation,” frets Ms Twenge.

Moral panic is not confined to America. Chinese parents worry that their “little emperors” have grown up lazy, spoiled and promiscuous. When a video of a young couple having sex in the fitting room of a trendy clothes shop in Beijing went viral last year, officials vowed to arrest the culprits, spluttering that their behaviour was “against socialist values”. Young Beijingers just laughed; a number made pilgrimages to the store to take defiant selfies outside.


Where some see a generation in crisis, others think the young are adapting quite well to the challenges of a changing world. They flit from job to job not because they are fickle but because job security is a thing of the past. They demand flexible hours and work-life balance because they know they don’t have to be in the office to be productive. They spend six hours a day online because that is how they work, and also how they relax. Their enthusiasm for new ideas (and lack of spare cash) has kickstarted money-saving technologies from Uber to WhatsApp. They take longer to settle down and have children, but so what? They will also be working far later in life than their parents did.

What will the world be like when today’s young people are in charge? Some worry that it will be more cynical. In China, for example, eight out of ten students say they want to join the Communist Party, but of those who do, only 4% are motivated by a belief in the system, observes Eric Fish in “China’s Millennials: The Want Generation”. Party membership opens doors, and millennials grab opportunities where they can.

Others take a cheerier view. When the millennials rule, society will be “more meritocratic and better governed,” says a young journalist in Malaysia, where the 62-year-old prime minister has given a confusing explanation of why nearly $700m was found in his bank accounts. (He denies wrongdoing.) When the millennials rule, the world may also be greener. They have shown great ingenuity in using resources more efficiently by sharing cars, bikes and spare rooms with strangers.

The world will surely grow socially more liberal. Young people nearly everywhere are more comfortable with homosexuality than their elders, partly because they are less religious but mostly because they know more openly gay people. In rich countries the debate is practically over; in developing nations the liberals are winning. A Pew poll in 36 countries found the young to be more tolerant than the old in 30 of them, often dramatically so: 18-29-year-old South Koreans were four times likelier to be gay-friendly than those over 50. Most millennials in China and Brazil now approve of same-sex marriage, an idea unheard of a generation ago. Even more agree that “people are exploring their sexuality more than in the past.”

The young are less racist than the old, too. In a survey by JWT, an advertising agency, 86% of youngsters in Brazil, Russia, India and China agreed that “my generation is accepting of people from different races,” and 76% said they differed from their parents on this topic. American students are so sensitive to any hint of racism that they sometimes see bigotry where there is none. When a professor at Yale suggested that students should be free to choose their own Halloween costumes, activists furiously protested that without strict rules, someone might wear an offensive one. Still, today’s oversensitivity is vastly preferable to the segregation of yesteryear.

Tolerance is unlikely to erode as the millennials grow older. They may grow more fiscally conservative as they earn more and notice how much of their pay is gobbled up by tax. They may move to the suburbs and buy a car when they have children. But they will not suddenly take against their friends who look different or love differently.

In several countries the young are warier than their elders of their governments using military force, partly because they are the ones who get drafted. Young Chinese are less likely than their parents to favour sending in troops to settle territorial disputes, despite the Communist Party’s efforts to fire them up with an aggrieved nationalism. American millennials see global warming as a bigger threat than China or Islamic fundamentalism; for older Americans it is the other way around.

In every generation, the young are the first to take to the streets to demand reform. Sometimes their fury leads nowhere, but autocrats still fear it. That is why China’s government rolled tanks over the Tiananmen Square protesters, and why it censors social media today. Young Africans, for their part, may not put up indefinitely with gerontocrats such as 91-year-old Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe and 82-year-old Paul Biya of Cameroon.

In democracies, young people will some day realise that signing online petitions is no substitute for voting (just as their elders started voting when they acquired grey hairs and mortgages and sent their children to government schools). When the young show up at polling stations, democratic governments will heed their views. And when the millennials start calling the shots more widely in society, they will do so for a long time. For thanks to steady advances in medical technology, they will remain healthy and able to work for longer than any previous generation. Indeed, if scientists’ efforts to crack the “ageing code” in human genes bear fruit, many of them will live past 120.
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby Winchester » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:38 pm

Saz wrote:Not that any of you illiterates would be aware, but the economist has a piece on the young. Spoiler: BOOMER f**k RUINED EVERYTHING.


aka millennials. :p
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Re: Millennials will save the world, if they're allowed.

Postby Josh » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:33 pm

Saz wrote:
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Saz wrote:Meh. The thing that's truly amazing is how f**k clueless boomers are. Even dumb obvious ideas have yet to be capitalised on because all the people with capital are traditional boomers stuck in the past. They have utterly frozen institutions and government due to their inability to accept the needs and benefits of new technology.


how do they do this?

they don't spend money wisely. they push out innovative and creative people. they reward the pragmatic acting and appearance of hard work. they feed lawyers and seek legal refuge and insurance over risk. the real killer is that they also learned that there is a large amount of capital to be made in flipping a business. they never really became experts and high performers at their business before they sold it to some other hapless boomer. however, they did profit off the corpses of dying industries and created the chasm in the economy that allowed the next generation of businesses to emerge.


No, what we need is MORE business flipping or investing or whatever you want to call it. It's creative destruction and better matches those of talent with positions of importance. Usually its laggard boomers that get the shuffle and they replace them with a relatively young bro thats better qualified for the position. It's the creative destruction we need.


herp derp, duh: "however, they did profit off the corpses of dying industries and created the chasm in the economy that allowed the next generation of businesses to emerge"
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