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All conspiracies are manipulative, that is why we have them. You are the one asserting various things about malignant soft-terrorism cells controlling governments. By doing this, you have presented a whole range of possibilities, without first having to make any specific, concrete suggestions on what those possibilities may be. Did the Illumnati sneak a man into a major political party, secure him a position of authority, and have him convince VIPs to include this clause in the NDAA... only to be thwarted by civil libertarians on the internet?

The mistake you are making is the same mistake the Western media made with Al Qaeda. They talked as if Al Qaeda was this formal, well-defined unit, a homogenous whole. Conspiracy isn't like that. When you and your conspiracy theory cohorts start going on about the Illumnati and the Seven Seats of Authority, there are never any names involved. I bet you can't give me the name of one single member of the Illumnati, who is alive, from a reputable news source (i.e. a newspaper with a circulation of at least 1,000,000). Talking about this vague group of people manipulating the world is pointless; like sandman pointed out, it accomplishes nothing. There are real conspiracists, with real names, and they don't wear capes and conspire to harm the middle-class and conceal their Xeno overlords.

Real conspiracies are boring, and as they are carried out by actual humans in the real world, they are usually inept and easily uncovered (ie: Watergate).

I am aware that the law actually exists, yes. How it relates to the Illumnati or Eastern secret societies, you've yet to say.

So, did the Bilderbergs meet and decide that they needed to get Obama to start arresting Americans? Or...?

"In 2001, Denis Healey, a Bilderberg group founder and, for 30 years, a steering committee member, said: "To say we were striving for a one-world government is exaggerated, but not wholly unfair. Those of us in Bilderberg felt we couldn't go on forever fighting one another for nothing and killing people and rendering millions homeless. So we felt that a single community throughout the world would be a good thing."[35] In 2005 Davignon discussed these accusations with the BBC: "It is unavoidable and it doesn't matter. There will always be people who believe in conspiracies but things happen in a much more incoherent fashion... When people say this is a secret government of the world I say that if we were a secret government of the world we should be bloody ashamed of ourselves."[32]"

Sounds like a nightmare to me.