The singularity has already happened.

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[jimmyz]

What would you say about the production of ingenuity,art, invention, philosophy, etc. that had no internet connection? Your OP falls on its face .... but do have another toke on the legal weed between episodes at the sink cleaning the grout between your fingers.

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[John Galt]

For Christ sake this dogshit again

No, we don't have runaway technological progress, so it can't be what people coined the singularity. It's cool you quoted something about it that directly lays bare how inept you are at reading comprehension though.

It's John the Baptist, not Jesus. That's a reference to a book called The Bible where this guy says that all he is doing is making the way for this other dude. That's the internet (John) and the singularity (Jesus)

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We don't have runaway technological growth?

What an... interesting and oddly out of touch statement. Typical for a conservative though. It is like deliberately handicapping your own brain.

In 2004, it cost several hundred million dollars to decode a single genome. It now costs about a thousand dollars for a single machine to decode roughly 16,000 genomes.

In fifteen years, the entire planet has adopted the internet and cellphones. Machine learning did not exist. Robotics has advanced so considerably it is now disturbing hundreds of industries. Transistors have improved 20-50 billion times over from the 1990s (actually). In 2008, it took 5 years to design a new automobile. It now takes 2 years. It took fifty years for 50% of America to adopt a telephone, and five years for smartphones. And then, of course, there are photovoltaic improvements, vast battery improvements, vast and incomprehensible medical changes, etc. Gene editing. Cloning. The first successful hand transplant was in 1998. The first real successful heart transplant, the late 1980s. There are now 3500 a year. We now 3D print organs, a procedure that didn't even exist in 2000. And let's not get started on revolutions in the space industry.

"Until I am literally a brain in a vat, there is no exponential, runaway technological growth causing unprecedented social change. And emergent intelligence? Doesn't exist." -Galt the Autist

What exactly does runaway technological growth look like to you, anyways? Billion fold improvements just don't cut it huh?

Just because it doesn't look like your favourite work of fiction doesn't make you correct, Galt.

[John Galt]

post-singularity technological progress will so fast it is an unfathomable explosion of technological progress moving at an entirely incomprehensible rate for humans. that meets the definition of the person who f**k coined the term. you've changed the goalposts such that moving one inch down the field is a the same as going the whole 100 yards for a touchdown.

i personally think it will be when two people join their consciousness through a digital medium and become borg. resistance is futile.

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Our technological growth is already unfathomable. It is literally impossible for a single human to understand or comprehend even a fraction of what has been created over the past two years. You work in data engineering, but your knowledge is essentially obsolete, and was rendered such years ago. The stuff being done at MIT or DARPA or in China makes your and my work look primitive, and it is.

Look, what it comes down to is that I will list a dozen points supporting my argument, and you will reference some technology you read about in a work of fiction as proof it hasn't happened yet.

It isn't a good faith argument. It isn't even an argument at all. It is just you going Nuh-Uh because you aren't a cyborg yet (even though humans regularly implant machines into their bodies in order to stay alive and provide better function than is available to them naturally).

[John Galt]

you're literally the only one who thinks this nonsense. look at your own page, it talks about it being estimated in 30-50 years.

the speed of technological progress is not unfathomable. the speed of sound is fathomable because we can see the shockwaves of sound moving, for instance, and interpret that to what the speed of sound is. a human can't really truly grok the speed of light though. that's the type of speed we're talking about. i understand quite clearly that technology is moving quickly, but it's not unfathomable. maybe for some people, like toddlers or people who have the mental capacity of a toddler, it might be moving at an unfathomable rate, but even for low iq individuals it should still be fathomable

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