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Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:31 am
by The Dharma Bum
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:33 am
by The Dharma Bum
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:37 am
by The Dharma Bum
See how you two keep trying to defend your own culture by making fallacious remarks about other cultures that imply your own culture is superior?
That is textbook xenophobia. You just threw in the thing about Kentucky to try to mask the scent. lol
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:44 am
by The Dharma Bum
BTW, Unless you are a Kentuckian that could be considered a xenophobic statement because it is attacking a different culture than your own. Xenophobia is not defined by what state someone belongs to but whether or not they are different.
It's the hatred or fear of people who are different than you. It doesn't have to be a foreigner, that is merely the most common context within which xenophobia occurs.
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:35 pm
by Sandman
That Kentuckians have atrocious dental health is not a "generalization", it's a statistical fact. They have the worst record in the entire nation. I didn't use that particular example to "mask the smell", I used it because it's such a concrete negative cultural phenomenon, and one that has been so thoroughly recorded and proven, that I thought EVEN YOU would be able to curb your cartoonish apologism for two whole seconds to concede the tiny point. I guess I was giving you too much credit, lol.
You can call it fallacious, but seeing how poor dental health has a direct negative physical effect on a person, a compulsion to do the things that lead to that outcome (like, I don't know............putting mountain dew in baby bottles at an epidemic level) can pretty squarely be called a negative cultural trait. It doesn't mean the entire culture of the people of Kentucky is inferior. It certainly means they are inferior in that one instant, though.
Maybe it's easier to just ask you if YOU think there are ANY cultural phenomenons that are objectively negative? Any at all? I mean, we already established that you think forced clitoral mutilation is exactly the same as a teenage American girl getting her ears pierced at a mall kiosk next to Bed, Bath, and Beyond..............but what about chattel slavery? Pederasty? Honor killings? Homicidal homophobia? Don't dodge this question, please. Just this one. Answer it honestly.
Re: Cosmopolitanism
Posted:
Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:02 pm
by Revenant
Re: Cosmopolitanism
Posted:
Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:28 am
by The Dharma Bum
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:25 am
by Revenant
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:21 am
by Sandman
Re: Cosmopolitanism
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:31 am
by The Dharma Bum
Yes, for example, xenophobia is one of many cultural phenomena that I would classify as negative. That doesn't change the fact attempting to apply a value to a particular culture is an inherently subjective process.
Now you answer my question. What kind of viewpoint do you think trying to establish "objective" proof of another culture's inferiority indicates?