Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
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Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
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Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:42 pmRe: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:52 pmis this thread an exercise in poe's law?
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:56 pmWhy are you parroting John Galt? Use original material. You're better than that.
I'll make it clear: making them a cake does not break any laws. Having a wedding ceremony that isn't sanctified by the state does not break any laws. It is 110% okay for a gay couple to kiss and make vows to one another, even in a religious setting. There is nothing at all illegal about what this couple was doing - period, end of story. This means your "supporting illegal activities" argument is garbage, as is your hilariously inept comparison of polyamory and homosexuality.
On the other hand, refusing service on the basis of sexual orientation does, in fact, break the law. Which is why the courts found agaist the owner, and why your trolling nonsense is irrelevant.
I'll make it clear: making them a cake does not break any laws. Having a wedding ceremony that isn't sanctified by the state does not break any laws. It is 110% okay for a gay couple to kiss and make vows to one another, even in a religious setting. There is nothing at all illegal about what this couple was doing - period, end of story. This means your "supporting illegal activities" argument is garbage, as is your hilariously inept comparison of polyamory and homosexuality.
On the other hand, refusing service on the basis of sexual orientation does, in fact, break the law. Which is why the courts found agaist the owner, and why your trolling nonsense is irrelevant.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:09 pmRe: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:12 pmWe've been over this a thousand times. Saying "it isn't about them being gay, it is about them being gay married" is retarded and unworthy of a serious response.
For the love of God, stop channeling Galt.
For the love of God, stop channeling Galt.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:34 pmThere is a huge difference. Being gay isn't against the law, but being gay - married is.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:41 pmAgain, for the 147284th time, it is not illegal to have a non-state wedding ceremony. What they did is not illegal. End of story.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:54 pmIt's also not illegal to have a "I Love Heroin" party using symbolic heroin, but it's also understandable for a bakery owner to refuse to make a "I Love Heroin" cake due to the actual act of using heroin being illegal.
You see it as an owner refusing to provide service on the grounds of sexual orientation, while he is only refusing service to symbolic rebellions against the law.
You see it as an owner refusing to provide service on the grounds of sexual orientation, while he is only refusing service to symbolic rebellions against the law.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:00 pmYeah, I'm done here.
Re: Judge Wants Bakery Owner to Support Illegal Activities
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:11 pmIllegality has nothing to do with it. It is about morality.
If you are an environmentalist and the keystone pipeline planning commission wants to hire you to make a cake commemorating the opening of the pipeline, as a bakery owner you should be able to say no.
If you are a bakery owner and find homosexuality immoral you should be allowed to refuse service to them.
I think we are at the point where we no longer need to force tolerance onto people.
If you are an environmentalist and the keystone pipeline planning commission wants to hire you to make a cake commemorating the opening of the pipeline, as a bakery owner you should be able to say no.
If you are a bakery owner and find homosexuality immoral you should be allowed to refuse service to them.
I think we are at the point where we no longer need to force tolerance onto people.