Ubuntu Tablet

Ubuntu Tablet

Postby phosphide » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:22 am

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In not-so-important news, looks like they are finally releasing an official Ubuntu tablet. Not too happy about the specs on this, but have been waiting for years for this. I still want Ubuntu TV damnit! One day I'll have a Linux phone, tablet, TV, etc. that isn't Android. A boy can dream.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby Spider » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:29 am

This is actually pretty cool. Yeah, the hardware is lame, but bring on the...wait is this "MediaTek" processor ARM? How is this thing running x86 software....
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby spacemonkey » Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:46 pm

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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby Winchester » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:22 pm

So a question from the ignorant... What can Ubuntu do for a tablet that Android can't?
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby Spider » Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:49 pm

Winchester wrote:So a question from the ignorant... What can Ubuntu do for a tablet that Android can't?


Desktop software, for one. This, at least if I'm not misunderstanding, is more like a Surface than an Android or iOS tablet.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby phosphide » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:45 pm

Spider wrote:This is actually pretty cool. Yeah, the hardware is lame, but bring on the...wait is this "MediaTek" processor ARM? How is this thing running x86 software....


I believe it has something to do with the Mir display server that Canonical built, though not entirely sure what you mean by x86 software. Ubuntu works on multiple architectures.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby phosphide » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:47 pm

Winchester wrote:So a question from the ignorant... What can Ubuntu do for a tablet that Android can't?

Depends. Ubuntu's phone/tablet has yet to be released so not entirely sure what it can/can't do at this point. That said, as Spider mentioned, it will supposedly have the power to switch between a full-desktop and tablet similar to Windows 10.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby fstarcstar » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:31 pm

They'll cancel this about a week or two before it comes out, guaranteed.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby Winchester » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:56 pm

Spider wrote:
Winchester wrote:So a question from the ignorant... What can Ubuntu do for a tablet that Android can't?


Desktop software, for one. This, at least if I'm not misunderstanding, is more like a Surface than an Android or iOS tablet.


The problem I have with Linux desktop software (it has been a while since I've tried it) is it is not very user friendly for run of the mill users, that and everything is geared for windows as far as desktops are concerned.
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Re: Ubuntu Tablet

Postby Spider » Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:59 pm

phosphide wrote:
Spider wrote:This is actually pretty cool. Yeah, the hardware is lame, but bring on the...wait is this "MediaTek" processor ARM? How is this thing running x86 software....


I believe it has something to do with the Mir display server that Canonical built, though not entirely sure what you mean by x86 software. Ubuntu works on multiple architectures.


Ubuntu Touch (which is I believe what this device comes with) can run either in x86 (desktop processors like intel and AMD, basically, as opposed to phone processors, like Tegra and Snapdragon, which are both ARM) or ARM modes. Software for x86 is fundamentally incompatible with ARM processors, and vice versa, because ARM and X86 use different instruction sets. ARM uses RISC and x86 uses CISC. The instruction sets are specific to the architectures, and short of virtual machines, there is no way to make them cross functional.

That's mostly what I'm confused about here. Is this device able to run X86 desktop software even though its got an ARM processor? Built in emulation? Because that would be a neat trick.
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