Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby exploited » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:39 pm

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:The issue isn't with any one particular aspect of the new gaming paradigm, Comrade. The entire industry is changing, and every step of the way, old school gamers have fought back tooth and nail.

DLC? Why, that's just the other half of the game, repackaged and sold to me for more money!


and as i said the EA model of DLC isn't very widespread.

exploited wrote:Microtransactions? What is this shit? Why can't I just buy a bundle?


microtransactions don't make any sense in AAA games which is why you rarely see them.

exploited wrote:Subscription models? You mean I have to pay for a game in perpetuity, with no guarantee of quality? WHY CAN'T THEY BRING BACK CDS REGULAR, FREE UPDATES LIKE THEY USED TOO?!?!?!?!


subscription models are over 15 years old. it's always been expected of MMORPGs.

exploited wrote:Pay-to-play? Oh, you mean that thing where people can buy their way to the top.


this is the same exact thing as subscription models.

exploited wrote:Multiplayer? I don't want to be social, I want to be immersed in my own private world, where I'm the center of the entire game!


multiplayer is older than i am.

exploited wrote:Convergence? Why would I want to sacrifice the quality of the game so that other people can play it? Goodness gracious, that's a terrible idea! To think that I might be able to play with my friends after school regardless of their system - the travesty!


cross-platform play has existed, again, for a decade or more. there are many reasons why it won't be this revolutionary nonsense you're talking about

1. companies that own IP don't want to share it across systems that aren't theirs.
2. there are very real problems with seal clubbing when you have PC gamers playing with console players. this is why cross-platform FPS games are hilarious. the console players just get f**k destroyed. this is an express lane to killing your game.

exploited wrote:Meanwhile, literally nobody outside those born between 1975 and 1990 thinks like that. Nobody. Everyone else is accustomed to it, thinks nothing of it, or doesn't care because casual.


most of the things you mentioned aren't even problems though. and they aren't directions the game industry is going in they've been doing them for 15-20 years at this point.

exploited wrote:But don't worry, Comrade, I'm sure gaming companies will focus on dwindling markets of old school gamers instead of focusing on the younger crowd, using new business models, as they have throughout all of gaming history.



lol what market am i a part of? i play the same games as people 10 years younger than me.



This is what I'm talking about. You're oblivious.
User avatar
exploited
Vice President
 
Posts: 20889
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:32 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Has thanked: 2164 times
Been thanked: 1687 times

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby Spider » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:44 pm

Its really wrong to assume that because someone is under 30 they are "casual". I'm casual. I game maybe 5% as much as I used to back in the day. Probably play more Hearthstone on my phone than anything. The people without careers, wives, kids, mortgages, etc etc...they have got the time to be hardcore. What do you see at the professional/competative level in gaming? Sure as hell not old people. The most hardcore are the youngs...doing insane 20 hour marathons...spending thousands of hours in WoW, LoL, Dota, etc, managing to play FPS games on a console with some squeaky voiced 12 year old shit talking over voice chat. They stand in line for new releases, they get fanboi rage over console brands...they are relatively nuts.

Hat's off to them.

And they aren't stupid. They know they are getting ripped off with microtransactions. They know they are paying full price for part of a game. They do think about it, they are concerned about it, and they do rage about it online. The "casuals" are the millions of old people playing facebook games and whatever the current mobile game crazy is. Casuals don't spend big money on hardware.

As has been pointed out...none of this is new. None of it is "the future". Its something really irritating that we've been putting up with for most of this century so far. And, in fact, most of this "the future" stuff has been eschewed by the majority of games...increasingly so as time wears on.

As for PC gaming...its pretty much as its always been. A vocal minority occupying the premium niche. The masses on the other hand have always been plugging Nintendo's and such in TV sets. Clear back to the 1970's. I remember playing Mario on NES one day...and then seeing Doom for the first time the next. Watershed moment.

Having said all of that...it makes no sense to defend and justify anti-consumer business practices because "its the future". Its not the future. Its the present. And its been the same for years. The only think we the consumers can do is vote with our wallets, just as we always have. And our money spends the same regardless of how long we've been gamers.
Every dark cloud has a silver lining. But lightning kills hundreds of people each year who are trying to find it.
User avatar
Spider
VIP
VIP
 
Posts: 11403
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:38 pm
Location: Out in the sticks.
Gender: Male
Has thanked: 838 times
Been thanked: 1012 times
Political Leaning: Anarcho Communist

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby John Galt » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:19 pm

as much as i hate EA for their bullshit, they are claiming there are no microtransactions and no paid dlcs planned for need for speed http://www.pcgamer.com/need-for-speed-w ... t-planned/

so while exploited is spouting nonsense as usual, ea is perhaps changing
Americans learn only from catastrophe and not from experience. -- Theodore Roosevelt
User avatar
John Galt
Technical Admin
 
Posts: 12209
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:22 pm
Location: Bowling Green Massacre Survivor
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 568 times
Been thanked: 1263 times
Political Leaning: Classic Liberal

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby The Comrade » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:43 pm

exploited wrote:This is what I'm talking about. You're oblivious.



low effort b8 m8
ImageImageImageImageImageImage
User avatar
The Comrade
Vice President
 
Posts: 18091
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:10 pm
Location: Yugoslavia
Gender: Male
Has thanked: 1193 times
Been thanked: 1827 times
Political Leaning: Socialist

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby Philly » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:06 am

This nerd fight amuses me. As an outsider to this conversation, I am unbiased and proclaim comrade the winner.

These users thanked the author Philly for the post:
The Comrade
User avatar
Philly
Governor
 
Posts: 9407
Joined: Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:36 pm
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 947 times
Been thanked: 1111 times

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby Dylan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:24 am

There are no winners in something like this im afraid.
Image
User avatar
Dylan
Vice President
 
Posts: 10741
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:34 pm
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 1038 times
Been thanked: 916 times
Political Leaning: Middle of the Road

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby exploited » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:29 am

I'm inclined to agree that Comrade has proven his ability to assert a series of facts that add up to nothing. The guy literally just tried to dispute my argument by pointing out that everything I said has already come to pass, while refusing to provide any rationale for why he thinks these trends won't continue. You see this kind of oblivious behaviour all the time from hardcore gamers.

Forza, Tomb Raider, Payday 2, MGSV, GTA Online, Halo 5,
Mass Effect 3, Dead Space 3, Gran Turismo, all of the new Mad Max games, Ryse, all of these titles have microtransactions, DLC, etc. Shit, go talk to the head of Avalanche Studio and see what he thinks the future is.

But don't worry, Comrade, I'm sure there companies will be hurt terribly by all this gamer backlash (profits at record highs) and reverse these trends.
User avatar
exploited
Vice President
 
Posts: 20889
Joined: Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:32 pm
Location: Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Has thanked: 2164 times
Been thanked: 1687 times

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby NAB » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:02 am

Dylan wrote:There are no winners in something like this im afraid.


I would tend to agree. As an outsider, it's like a car wreck, you fear to look yet cannot turn away.

Yes, I actually read posts on a topic I had absolutely no interest in. I was merely looking for quality insults.
Welcome to our speak board web page
User avatar
NAB
Governor
 
Posts: 7538
Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:27 am
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 1060 times

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby Dylan » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:08 am

Exactly.

Also speaking of beta......
Image
User avatar
Dylan
Vice President
 
Posts: 10741
Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:34 pm
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 1038 times
Been thanked: 916 times
Political Leaning: Middle of the Road

Re: Star Wars Battlefront Beta

Postby fstarcstar » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:55 am

The Comrade wrote:
exploited wrote:
The Comrade wrote:it's a garbage game that appeals to casuals and those who have no integrity like exploited.


What didn't you like about it? Great graphics, I enjoyed the controls, Rebel Assault was great other than the balance issue, playing as Darth or Luke is awesome... I was actually pretty surprised because it's an EA game and EA is terrible, alas...


there are no real classes,


What classes are you looking for? Because there was a part of the beta you couldn't access.

the number of people is very small in a game,


What? There was 20 v 20 in Walker Assault. I'm confused.

it has 4 maps,


What? It has 12 multiplayer maps at launch and there is the co-op mode as well. I'm mad there isn't a campaign, but I'm rather old school I guess.

half the star wars universe is missing, the way vehicles and grenades and things work is so hilariously arcadey. missing game modes.


They can't put the entire universe in there right now, and I wouldn't doubt there was a lot of requests from Disney not too since we are entering a new timeline in the Star Wars universe. Grenades were annoying, but also if you've ever played call of duty and other games grenades can just ruin the entire experience. Star Wars movies were never about grenades and other things, and more about lasers and pew pew so I actually enjoyed it because I wasn't bombarded with grenades every half second.

lots of stuff that will be included later in $25 DLC packs.

it's a sack of shit.


Yeah the DLC stuff is bullshit, I hate it. Luckily 343 stated that all of the maps in halo 5 will be available because offering DLC cuts people out from not purchasing. Maybe others will follow.
Image
User avatar
fstarcstar
Governor
 
Posts: 2376
Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:47 pm
Gender: None specified
Has thanked: 126 times
Been thanked: 143 times

PreviousNext

Return to Science/Tech

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest