Windows 9! er... 10...?

Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby The Comrade » Mon Aug 03, 2015 11:08 am

we're here, we're quarts, get used to it.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby John Galt » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:34 pm

http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t

microsoft tech support says that if you modify your hardware you invaidate your free windows 10 upgrade and need to buy the full version

you know, cuz your graphics card upgrading makes it a new computer

what the f**k applemicrosoft?
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby Medius » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:16 pm

John Galt wrote:http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t

microsoft tech support says that if you modify your hardware you invaidate your free windows 10 upgrade and need to buy the full version

you know, cuz your graphics card upgrading makes it a new computer

what the f**k applemicrosoft?


http://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-will-microsoft-charge-you-if-you-need-to-reinstall/


Not quite right. They are simply enforcing something that has always been there, but that they couldn't enforce with a paid product. It is likely linked to the extremely terrible idea they had for OEM.

Basically, if you buy a computer with Windows pre-installed (I had one custom built), the key is embedded in bios. What this means is that if, for some reason, you need to re-flash your bios (new bios update, bios problem, etc..) you get to ship it to the company that built it so that they can put back in your registration key, which will die upon flashing.

But, this is considered ok, because you are buying a very limited copy of windows specific to that machine (And it is cheaper).

The upgrade is free.

Buying a retail copy of windows, there is an expectation of being able to carry the license forward. And since it was using the same method as the OEM (keys), when windows invalidated due to a "significant hardware change" you could call up MS and get your key re-activated for the new machine with very little difficulty (though OEM should not have allowed it, technically).

With the new system, you are SOL (unless you have a retail copy, which I would imagine still allows re-activation for significant changes). The market is getting more and more primed for a competing OS to take down the Microsoft behemoth.

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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby Winchester » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:19 pm

John Galt wrote:http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t

microsoft tech support says that if you modify your hardware you invaidate your free windows 10 upgrade and need to buy the full version

you know, cuz your graphics card upgrading makes it a new computer

what the f**k applemicrosoft?


One Microsoft Tech guy said this... I call BS.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby Medius » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:29 pm

Winchester wrote:
John Galt wrote:http://imgur.com/gallery/8OJ4t

microsoft tech support says that if you modify your hardware you invaidate your free windows 10 upgrade and need to buy the full version

you know, cuz your graphics card upgrading makes it a new computer

what the f**k applemicrosoft?


One Microsoft Tech guy said this... I call BS.


It happens on a significant change (Motherboard change) and has always been there, you can just get around it with prior versions of windows.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby The Comrade » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:51 pm

the whole 5 minutes it'll take for me to download a crack with its own installer is a real hassle, microsoft.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby Medius » Mon Aug 03, 2015 3:03 pm

The Comrade wrote:the whole 5 minutes it'll take for me to download a crack with its own installer is a real hassle, microsoft.


Might as well, I'd bet that Windows will be freely installable like Andriod in the next 5 years. Microsoft is too stupid to realize that the mobile revolution happened, that it is here, and they pretty well missed it. It isn't the inevitable trend that everyone wants to believe (that the PC will vanish and only mobile will remain).

It is a growth market only because of relative cost. Part of why everyone has them is because so many companies are willing to take a loss to expand into them. When the price equalizes and everyone involved gets the cut they really want, people will start hanging on to them for years, rather than trading up every year.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby fstarcstar » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:34 pm

If I didn't already have a surface pro 2 and had $1500 to blow, I would definitely buy this.

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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby Medius » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:12 pm

fstarcstar wrote:If I didn't already have a surface pro 2 and had $1500 to blow, I would definitely buy this.

Video from : youtube.com


I'm sticking away from MS for a bit. Windows 10 is a pile. Hopefully they'll get it fixed, but for right now, I'm glad to have android on every other device I own.
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Re: Windows 9! er... 10...?

Postby The Comrade » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:32 pm

what's wrong with windows 10?
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