Is Christianity the answer?

Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby John Galt » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:01 pm

highest crime rate per capita in the world (all crime) is iceland which is roughly 5x more crime ridden than the US. canada is twice as full of crime as the US. of the G7 the lowest three are Japan and then Italy and the US (which are very close in crime rate, Japan is significantly less). the other G7 countries are way worse than the US. the phillipines, burma and nepal are the lowest. of course, mexico is listed lower than the US, since per this is per capita and ALSO depends on the willingness of local authorties to report the crime but that's what we have for numbers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... s-per-1000

iceland is 95% christian
italy is 85% christian
us is 78% christian
japan is 57% "unaffiliated" (shinto, really)
phillipines is 84% christian
burma is 80% buddist
nepal is 80% hindu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_by_country

i'd say there really is no correlation
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby eynon81 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:23 am

John Galt wrote:highest crime rate per capita in the world (all crime) is iceland which is roughly 5x more crime ridden than the US. canada is twice as full of crime as the US. of the G7 the lowest three are Japan and then Italy and the US (which are very close in crime rate, Japan is significantly less). the other G7 countries are way worse than the US. the phillipines, burma and nepal are the lowest. of course, mexico is listed lower than the US, since per this is per capita and ALSO depends on the willingness of local authorties to report the crime but that's what we have for numbers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... s-per-1000


my mind is blown....Iceland? There's 300,000 people in Iceland. They should just put their criminal in prison....locking him up will probably solve the problem.
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby Medius » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:52 am

eynon81 wrote:
John Galt wrote:highest crime rate per capita in the world (all crime) is iceland which is roughly 5x more crime ridden than the US. canada is twice as full of crime as the US. of the G7 the lowest three are Japan and then Italy and the US (which are very close in crime rate, Japan is significantly less). the other G7 countries are way worse than the US. the phillipines, burma and nepal are the lowest. of course, mexico is listed lower than the US, since per this is per capita and ALSO depends on the willingness of local authorties to report the crime but that's what we have for numbers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-inf ... s-per-1000


my mind is blown....Iceland? There's 300,000 people in Iceland. They should just put their criminal in prison....locking him up will probably solve the problem.


http://grapevine.is/mag/articles/2011/09/27/doingtimeiniceland/

Sorry, no vacancy
Not that people are vying for a nice room at Iceland’s “luxurious” prisons, Hafdís says there are 350 convicted criminals waiting to serve their term on any given day. Typically she says the convicted have to wait from one day to four to five years to begin serving their time.


A wait list...

In Iceland, prisoners are given their own cell and are permitted to bring with them items like a radio, a CD player and speakers, a flat screen TV up to 26” or a tube TV up to 21,” a personal computer with a 23” flat screen, keyboard, printer, mouse and speakers, 150 CDs and DVDS with see-through cases, reading and writing material, and games. Furnished cells look very much like dorm rooms (though they are leagues above the rooms at UCLA, for instance, where nearly all freshman bunk up with at least one roommate in half the space).


More comfortable than a college dorm with more stuff than some non-convicts even own.

After prisoners have fulfilled one third of their sentence, they can apply for leave from the prison as frequently as once per month to spend a day with family and friends or short-term leave to visit an ill relative, attend a funeral of a close relative, attend the birth, baptism or confirmation of his or her child, and “attend to particularly urgent personal interests.”


... I don't even ...

So, add all that to a system that has less prisoners per 100k people than the US, even though there are more criminals, which means shorter sentences, it starts to make sense.
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby exploited » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:34 am

It's funny when Westerners encounter functional prison system. "What is this?!?! Where are the beatings and constant sexual assaults? Why do they get stuff? How come they aren't being treated miserably?"

It kills me.

Poland needs to increase its budget, any problems it has now are due to lack of spending. Other than that they follow the Scandinavian model and it is vastly superior.
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby John Galt » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:46 pm

iceland has highest crime per capita in world and has wait lists for prisons.

exploited on this system: "functional"

in fact, all of scandinavia has high crime, between twice and 5 times as much crime as the united states

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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby eynon81 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:03 pm

John Galt wrote:iceland has highest crime per capita in world and has wait lists for prisons.

exploited on this system: "functional"

in fact, all of scandinavia has high crime, between twice and 5 times as much crime as the united states

"functional"


One thing I'm continually struck with about crime in the US is how rarely random people are victimized, and even then most of those people are victimized in traffic incidents.
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby spacemonkey » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:26 pm

Morality is a dying custom here. To bad really, especially for future Americans.
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby exploited » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:29 pm

John Galt wrote:iceland has highest crime per capita in world and has wait lists for prisons.

exploited on this system: "functional"

in fact, all of scandinavia has high crime, between twice and 5 times as much crime as the united states

"functional"


Higher levels of property crime in countries that are functional. Also people tend to assault more and murder less. Of course you don't account for these facts because crime is crime amirite?!?!
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby John Galt » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:39 pm

did you just double down and again indicate that having relatively astronomical amounts of crime is indicative of a "functional" prison system?
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Re: Is Christianity the answer?

Postby spacemonkey » Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:43 pm

The so called savages that live in jungles have no prison system. So, who really leads who?
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