Re: The Dirty Word: Secular Humanism Split

[JDHURF]

[Gnostic]

I'm going to repeat exactly what I wrote in my second to last post. Hegel was an idealist who believed that the highest state of mankind can only be attained through constant ideological conflict and resolution. The rules of the dialectic means mankind can only reach its highest spiritual consciousness through endless self-perpetuating struggle between ideals, and the eventual synthesizing of all opposites. Please explain how that differs from Marx's formula.

[JDHURF]

I'm going to repeat myself:

Hegel's framework is obviously bound up in his idealist conception of Absolute Spirit and how it comes to know itself through the triadic movement of Logic.

Marx's framework is simply the historical socioeconomic motive forces.

[Gnostic]

[The Comrade]

to be fair i thought you had come around to my position via my definition, gnostic. i still agree with hurf that marx is not hegelian due to the inherent differences in their dialectics. i was merely pointing out how one could use the same framework for theory and still not be a product of someone who used that same framework before you.

[Gnostic]

[JDHURF]

[The Comrade]

[Gnostic]

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