Fed Appeals Court Tosses CA Concealed Weapons Rules

[PoS]

[exploited]

I don't think it moves the goal posts at all. Why? Because the studies I quoted make no distinction between a gun that sits in a case and a gun that gets carried everyday. All it does is examine the availability of guns, the relation to murder and suicide, while controlling for most other explanations.

So whether concealed carry is allowed or not really doesn't matter. More guns equals more murders, period. If the number of guns remains the same, so will the results. If more of those guns are carried in public, the only possible result is more use of them. Which is why I asked you to prove that CC decreases crime - while controlling for the other factors - or concede the point.

The fact is that a link between CC and increased OR decreased crime has not been found, but given the overwhelming evidence about the impact of availability and the increased risks associated with owning a firearm, I think it is well within reason to not allow it. At least until there is better studies.

[Bauce]

[PoS]

[Bauce]

You've trashed cops in other threads but now their opinion is sacred to you? Exploited posted peer review studies, not a survey of radar holders.

[PoS]

Peer review studies from a bunch of lefty academic morons have no basis when it comes to down and dirty experience- its just statistics (and uses a correlation/causation fallacy too I might add), I'll take cop's words over their's.

[Bauce]

So you trust cops now?

[PoS]

No, but I'll take their word on this over some liberal academic who wants a fascist lefty nanny state. Hey look! More guns means more gun deaths! Duh, thats like saying more cars lead to more car accidents... so ban cars! The fact is that we are safer now than ever before- massacres are statistical aberrations and they always seem to happen to unarmed victims, you dont see one of these psychos trying to gun down people in a police station do you.

[eynon81]

[Bauce]

Yeah mandatory sentences with no plea deal is incredibly stupid.