1.2% of Americans will be shot dead within their lifetime

[Dylan]

I prefer to treat it like a bandaid. Just rip it off. Incremental steps only makes it more painful for everyone involved (especially all the people who are getting shot).

Hell, google "accidental shootings" and limit it to the last week. Kids getting blown up left and right. Sick.

[Winchester]

[eynon81]

[Dylan]

I'm glad you can acknowledge that. The sooner we drop the absurd pretext that guns are for safety the sooner we can reach the core of this debate.

Which is: Do we value human life and safety over recreational firearm use?

That's the crux on which this debate should turn. The rest of the crap arguments most gun owners vomit it is just noise that muddies the issue.

[Winchester]

[eynon81]

[eynon81]

[Dylan]

That's fine. You're wrong, of course, but at least you're bing intellectually honest.

I just hope we can address that question as a society and avoid the nonsense about stopping tyranniez and how guns save 50 million Americans a year and the other absurd lies the gun lobby throws against the wall.

[Winchester]

[Dylan]

No. It's the culture of guns as toys that is a big part of the issue. Treating them as toys, which 99.9% of gun owners do, imparts the culture we see today which is rampant with gun deaths that could have been avoided.

Allowing the bigger and potentially more harmful toys, when they have already proven entirely incapable of managing their current toys, is a terrible idea.